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Pro-Israel Figures Threaten to Kill Greta Thunberg Over Gaza Aid Mission - Quds News Network (2025-06-02)
https://qudsnen.co/pro-israel-figures-threaten-to-kill-greta-thunberg-over-gaza-aid-mission/
------>> … Greta Thunberg is facing a wave of violent threats by pro-genocide individuals after joining a Gaza-bound aid flotilla. Pro-Israel figures have called for her death or harm as she sails to challenge Israel’s siege on the devastated territory.
>> Republican Senator Lindsey Graham posted on X: “Hope Greta and her friends can swim!”…
#StopIsrael #StopGenocide #FreedomFlotilla
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I did that’s why Im asking because she does not appear to be successful. Im hoping peopl can provide examples of things she has done rather than appearances she has made.
The point of activism is to get more people to talk about issues and to bring about change. There’s billions of us. A single person will never be credited with changing the public opinion on anything, that’s not how things work. It’s unfair to ask what she has accomplished because she’s not in a line of work where results are immediate and obvious. And she’s only 22. Millions of people are talking about climate change and other issues thanks to her. Can you name a more (positive)influential person?
Yes, she’s successful. How many activists can you name over the top of your head? I’m sure the list is short. And most of them don’t get as many headlines written nor do they gather the same amount of people.
Do you want someone to go around the world and ask each person who inspired them to be better humans? Do you want to ask politicians why they pass each bill and which protest forced them to finally take action? Or how do you propose we quantify her success if not by number of followers and articles written?
Should we use successes as a measure of effectiveness or renown? You are suggesting renown right now.
The fact is celebrities aren’t going to fix this problem good old fashioned organizing is and she isn’t doing that. Other people are organizing and she is contributing celebrity.
Ever heard of strength in numbers? You can’t organize shit without people. And these “celebrities” bring people. But sure, you go ahead and organize your friends and she’ll do what she thinks is best too. As long as Gaza gets help, doesn’t really matter who did the most.
Yes I have, what is the name of the organization she works for and/or started? Where can I find the network she created with others?
Im not going to wait for an answer because there isn’t one. The organization is being done by regular people and groups that already existed, not social media celebrities.
There isn’t one? Are you joking? What is This then? 1.2 million donated by the foundation as of 2022. Money from awards, prizes and donations. That’s nothing, right?
What about This one? Which claims “started in 2018, when 15-year old Greta Thunberg began a school strike for climate.” They gathered millions of people for strikes and they name her as inspiration. But that’s nothing as well, right?
Man, if only everyone in the world was as useless as Greta…
one of the organizations you list does not involve her and the other has her name and writes checks.
Do you know how organizing actually works or are you just looking to get angry at me because I want effective activism instead of more performative activism?
I’m aware that different states have different laws but in no state does possession of a weapon magically obviate all claims of self defense against an unarmed person.because possession of a weapon in no way obviates the risk to you that you are attempting to ameliorate by killing the fucker.
EG if someone broke into your home to rape and murder you you aren’t going to jail for stabbing them with a kitchen knife. If you disagree pick a specific state where you think the law works like that and I’ll be happy to look at the relevant info.
Oh, I’m sorry, I didn’t realize only activism in person works. My bad. Oh, wait… she does that too… anyway, I’m done with you, I suggest your seek help, it can’t possibly be healthy to need to put others down to feel better about yourself. And you think I’m the angry one, hahaha, funny.
Ok, how about we turn this around since you have very high standards for what you consider an accomplishment. What have you succeeded at?
I was active in LGBT marriage in the states of MA, NJ and the nation as a whole. Right now we have LGBT+ marriage rights so I would suggest the leaders of these movements were successful.
I was active in removing CSAM and problematic porn subreddits from reddit. I left reddit because they refused to killa subreddit literally listing CSAM for sale so I don’t see this as being successful.
Alright, olive branch. I understand that it’s never good to put people on a pedestal, but this is a weird thing to pull from current events. What we have is a person, regardless of “credentials” joining a flotilla with the goal of bringing food through a blockade.
Fame or motive aside, it’s a good thing to want to help people, full stop. We shouldn’t crab brain things like this and pull people back into the bucket.
We also shouldn’t idolized them, understood.
BUT
You also shouldn’t be so fixated on whether people celebrate this person. Let’s just be happy that there are some folks on the front lines fighting injustice, and mad at people that want to stomp that out. It’s really easy.
Those that can help should help, and those that can’t, or won’t, should just move out of the way. Doesn’t have to be more complicated than that.