Edit: Replaced “Restrictions” in place of the word “Ban”
I have a Chinese phone with a Chinese rom so that the Chinese can spy on me instead, I don’t think they’ll be adding the restrictions given that my phone has a toggle to completely disable google play services
For me, that’s not really fun either.
I’m a former PRC citizen and they probably think of me as a “traitor” for leaving. The have been PRC nationals accused and convicted of running a “illegal police station” to harass dissidents. The only thing worse than being harassed by one government is being harassed by two governments.
Edit: Also I have a phone with LineageOS now, zero spying :D
Waiting for someone in Europe to sue them.
I use F-droid for everything. I’d truly be fucked.
Chaos and rebellion.
Sell off any phones that I can’t modify. Aggressively de-Google while setting up fake accounts to send garbage into their system training.
Light my way with the burning of bridges.
Hoping that EU comes to the rescue.
google saw that EU allowed apple to do something similar, so why not take the chance to lock the garden…
Nah they wont.
Sure, they are really good on the right-to-repair issue, but that’s because they want to be more independent and less reliant on other countries to make new phones. As for privacy and information control, the government don’t really have an incentive to give people more privacy and freedoms. They are still trying to pass chat control with a majority of the EU members in support (the only reason its not passed yet is because EU laws need to be unanimous)
You obviously don’t understand EU, it’s far from only right to repair, but EU has many protections against American shenanigans, like tracking and storing of personal data, and right to be forgotten (GDPR). EU Also dictated Apple should allow sideloading, something Apple of course mostly circumvented, but they could face steep fines for that too.
EU also has way stricter regulation than USA and UK on mass surveillance. And generally way better consumer protection than USA.EU also mandates de-anonymisation online: (1). EU also plans to have every single message one sends to be scanned by them.
I think the reasoning behind their decisions is simply summed up as: more power to the EU administration, less freedom for everyone else, be it US tech giants, EU citizens or small software developers.
FUD
For the immediate future, I’ll be all set with GrapheneOS.
Beyond that, I’ll suffer whatever inconveniences I need to in order to avoid this bullshit. If that means I can’t use my banking apps, I’ll find a better bank, or use the web site, or just say “fuck it all” and stop banking on my phone altogether. I’ve already given up NFC payments. It’s not the end of the world.
This will only become a bigger pain in the ass as time goes on, I’m sure, but I will die on this hill. I suggest that everyone draw their lines in the sand sooner rather than later.
this pain in the ass seems to be cyclic with regards to open source things. over the last 30 odd years of my being in the flow of doing my own thing with my own hardware, it seems like we hit peaks and valleys of “company does something frustrating” -> “community sorts it out”. rinse and repeat.
it’ll be bumpy but someone will figure it out and we’ll start the cycle again.
I hope so. There is some apps that I’ve simply grown accustomed to using on a phone and I know will not be supported on a Linux phone
Yep. Me too. I’ll be OK for now with GrapheneOS, and as time goes on I’ll make changes as needed. I’m actually optimistic things will work out before it gets to that point, but if it doesn’t I’m willing to do what I need to. I will die on the hill with you.
I’m so tired of this shit man, I no longer have any real plan.
I’m seriously considering carrying the smallest x86/ARM Tablet capable of running Linux I can alongside some cheap phone for 4G hotspot and calls/strictly necessary.Guess PC land is the last place we still have freedom (for now!!! 🙄🙄🙄)
Not for long, the Microsoft boot secure thing is sus
I’m not one to bang on about the year of Linux, but honestly, the floor is falling out from under ‘consumer Windows,’ and they are doing little to stop it.
At some point, even OEMs are going to get fed up and start offering their own wine/proton centric distros on some laptops/big tablets. They will be awful and bloated, and business laptops will probably be stuck with Windows forever, but still.
Fedora is a thing
If my job didn’t require MS Authenticator I would just be carrying around a dumb phone and my work laptop.
My job requires MS Authenticator and I just use Aegis to make my TOTPs.
Is there a deeper MS Auth feature that locks you in?
Yeah, they don’t allow us to use TOTPs. It’s “passkeys only” through MS Authenticator. Using anything else causes the 365 dashboard to refuse to onboard.
You can use a MiFi router with tablet and a dumbphone just for calls.
Once my phone becomes that limited I may as well go back to a feature phone after mine stops being usable.
Honestly no idea. It’s hard enough finding a phone with an audio jack, and now I have to find a phone with an audio jack, and an unlockable bootloader so I can install another OS?
Just seems like my way of living is incompatible with modern society. It’s all just too hard
Just seems like my way of living is incompatible with modern society. It’s all just too hard
I know right?
Used a locked phone! Submit your ID to the web! Create a Instagram account! SUBMIT! SUBMIT! SUBMIT!yeah so hard to switch to wireless audio. horrible even.
Idk if you’re aware of this. But phones with headphones jacks still have Bluetooth. I use wireless earphones occasionally (and yes, it is horrible) but I also need to be able to plug in to my home hi-fi system
- I’ll believe it when I see it.
- I’ll begin transitioning to a different linux-based os
There hasn’t been anything Google on my phone for a while now, so I’ll first wait and see how they regain control over my phone :D
the “:D” really made the comment, its like the “this is fine” meme, but simplified to 2 characters xD
Basically, yes
All we can really do is deal with shit as it arises, but it’s still shit
Trying to import a Pixel 10 from outside of the states for the Sim slot.
Then GrapheneOS and run it into the ground.
I really hope Graphene partners with Fairphone, helps them get their security up to par, and make the Fairphone the official Graphene phone.
Then I could just use Fairphone forever.
The 10 might not get graphene due to changes in the way the hardware is done. If you want graphene now, grab a pixel 9 instead. Or at least wait till they have an official statement for it.
They have officially stated that they can support the 10 now, but it will have to wait until after the port to QPR1. https://xcancel.com/GrapheneOS/status/1960792610114511190#m
Ahh right on. Hadn’t seen that. Thanks for telling me!
We’ll have to see how they implement it first. If it’s just through Play Protect, I’m fine as I’m already not using that. If not, guess I’ll have to make-do with a Linux phone.
I’m going to wait for someone else to figure out a workaround and write a tutorial. Then wait for some indian youtuber to make a video tutorial out of that.
Without someone mumbling into a buzzing mic, I don’t believe its authenticity.
Dude, why do half the Indian YouTubers sound like mumble rappers. Hell, they’re better than me because they probably speak 3+ languages, but they can’t think it’s good for their viewership.
So how long until celluar providers also say you have to have a trusted device to activate your SIM? Apple, Google, Samsung, automotive and Windows would be fine and they’d probably allow their branded or limited hotspots.
This would basically eliminate any Linux option (pc or phone), and DIY devices. I could see other OOB vendors getting on board to be certified to have a certificate issued to them.
Not impossible, but SIMs go in all kinds of devices nowadays including tons of generic IOT gadgets.
