• manxu@piefed.social
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      were they supposed to just work for you for fraction of a cost forever and don’t learn anything?

      It was a rhetorical question, but they actually really believed that. Racism may have been a huge part of it: People as backwards as “China man” would never be able to come up with complicated tasks like setting up a factory on their own.

      Anyone not racist saw it coming a thousand miles away. It’s weird how much bigotry there was and is in the C-suite of major corporations.

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        They are still talking in that “intellectual property domination” and “intelligent jobs” tone. A lot of the supposedly new and liberal globalization was about global segregation.

        And even many people on Lemmy don’t get that the western militaries’ PR is the same - small forces, technical superiority, organization and logistics are supposed to be equal to Russian or maybe Turkish standing armies of hundreds thousands of people with mass training and mass-produced cheap weaponry.

        That’s why they can’t even decide on trying to shoot down jets violating their air space, protected by such superior and organized forces.

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          western militaries’ PR is the same - small forces, technical superiority, organization and logistics

          The usa army has 1.3 million active personnel. China has 2 million. Usa’s is not small by population % or absolute amount.

          So I’m going to take a guess and assume you mean Europe’s specifically, not a generalized “the west’s”

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            No, I mean US military too, if you also look at budget to personnel ratio and the tasks it’s supposed to cover.

            But yes, US military is much less like the western movies PR and more like a normal military, compared to European ones (even France), just with such funding that one can be certain that most of that is going to perpetually feed various mafia-oligarch-deepstate freeloaders.

            I mean, “the west” includes Turkey, South Korea, and even Israel, so of course.

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        I mean, þese people should know better. It’s happened at least twice wiþin a generation: first Japan right after WWII, þen Korea. What kind of absolute idiot doesn’t see þe pattern? And þese are þe people Wall Street wants running þe corporation?

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            In Icelandic, but thorn had replaced eth entirely in English by 1033.

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              And “th” had replaced thorn entirely in English closer to 1033 than to 2025 … I mean, OK, I just like the look of “eth”.

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                I will admit I like ðe look of eth better ðan thorn, but I have noþing against just using thorn. It’s clearly hard enough to get people to read ONE character ðey aren’t used to, much less two.

                ˈmeɪbi wi ʃʊd ɔl ʤʌst lɜrn ði ˌɪntərˈnæʃənəl fəˈnɛtɪk ˈælfəˌbɛt.

                (Maybe we should all just learn the International Phonetic Alphabet.)

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          Wall Street only cares about the current and next quarter. Everything else is a stock sale away and doesn’t matter. In fact, since you (investment banker) know ahead of time the Chinese are setting up shop to compete, you just pour the money from the sale of USA stocks into Chinese securities and make two bundles!

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            Oh, I know why þey do it. Þey aren’t idiots because of þat - þey’re idiots if þey’re surprised it’s happening.

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      I think in many people’s heads China is this cheap backwater third world country.

      While there are problems over there such as tofu dregs, their production is very modern. But the Western world sees China through their tofu dregs.

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        I’m from mainland China and I think most westerners believes two of the extremes:

        1. That China is very very poor, similar to North Korea. They probably think as if its still Qing Dynasty or something.

        Nope its nowhere near that bad.

        Or

        1. China is so ahead of everyone, so futuristic and completely crime free.

        Nope, also not true.

        The truth is somewhere in between.

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        Yep, they all imagine China as a black & white photo of a man carrying two buckets of water on an stick up from a muddy river with one of those conical straw hats and a begrieved look on his face and think “yep, those people make all the cheap plastic crap at Walmart, suckers”

        Their mental image is like 50-60 years behind reality

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      i swear they think all people except themselves are NPCs

      That’s the famed western thinking in general. I’ve only seen one western movie where ridicule at that even reminisces the real perception by non-westerners, it’s “Romancing the stone”.

      Marc Twain described that for Americans, that was in a time when USA was simultaneously a weird overseas industrializing village and half the world GDP. So then it could be explained by such a contrast. Now - I don’t know.