It is unclear whether the latest death toll includes either of the gunmen, with police earlier saying one had been killed and the other was in critical condition.
Fun with live news threads, headline has changed at least 4 times now…
Once again, this article doesn’t show any evidence that this man is muslim. The headline is misleading and not supported at all in this article.
I feel like people like you are quickly making up assumptions about this man based solely on his name and using that assumption to push narratives. This man is a hero, no doubt, but I haven’t seen any actual evidence of his religious beliefs in any local or major media outlet.
Well, the linked article is literally titled “Bondi Beach hero revealed as Muslim fruit seller Ahmed al Ahmed”, so maybe that’s why? Just a wild guess.
That’s just the title moron, if you bothered to read through the 3 paragraph article, you’ll quickly see that there’s NOTHING in the article that even hints at this man’s religious beliefs. The headline is just there for click bait and you fell for it
The title is part of the report, moron. There are no special rules that mean you can lie in the title, moron. There are no special rules that mean you have to expand on every detail in the title or else it’s not true, moron.
I’m having a hard time understanding your comment. Are you implying that media outlets don’t lie in their headlines? Are you perhaps implying that claims don’t require evidence for you to believe them?
Jesus. I’m not implying anything, everything I’ve said is explicit. Perhaps you’re having a hard time understanding because you’re looking for hidden meaning where none was intended?
The claim was made by the top level commenter, NOT_RICK. The evidence supporting this claim is the news report (and various others in the thread). That is the end of it. If you want to make a new claim, e.g. that this source is lying, then go ahead and do so. With evidence.
What you’re doing is called sealioning and there is no end to it. You wouldn’t accept the evidence unless the man himself came to your house and told you he was Muslim to your face. And then only if people were watching.
They’re not reporting it because there’s no evidence regarding this man’s religious beliefs. You just went out of your way to find a couple of clickbait headlines without even bothering to read them to spread narratives. You’re a part of the problem.
‘We saw the actions of a brave man… a brave Muslim, and I salute him for stopping one of the terrorists from killing innocent Jews,’ the Prime Minister stated, as reported by the Times of Israel.
The source of this guy being muslim in the article is literally Benjamin Netanyahu…
Regardless, all I wanted was for you to provide an article that at least had a source for the claim. I don’t trust anything Netanyahu says out of principle, but still this is an article that does provide something to support the claim. It’s not a pure clickbait headline that’s misleading. So there we go, that puts whatever this was to rest.
After sleeping this off I think I was being too much of a dick needlessly. I can respect and agree with your desire to make sure facts are well vetted before potentially pushing a false narrative. Cheers mate
It’s nice to see you doing this, but you really weren’t the problem in this thread. That account was not posting in good faith. You were immediately accused of spreading misinformation, then when you politely provided evidence, they doubled down both on the sealioning and the name calling. The votes tell the story here and you did well and you did good.
No I’m not. Not my job to look up other sources for you, but here you go.
Once again, this article doesn’t show any evidence that this man is muslim. The headline is misleading and not supported at all in this article.
I feel like people like you are quickly making up assumptions about this man based solely on his name and using that assumption to push narratives. This man is a hero, no doubt, but I haven’t seen any actual evidence of his religious beliefs in any local or major media outlet.
I don’t know why you’re being downvoted, you’re absolutely right. A quick google search contained no information about his religion
Well, the linked article is literally titled “Bondi Beach hero revealed as Muslim fruit seller Ahmed al Ahmed”, so maybe that’s why? Just a wild guess.
That’s just the title moron, if you bothered to read through the 3 paragraph article, you’ll quickly see that there’s NOTHING in the article that even hints at this man’s religious beliefs. The headline is just there for click bait and you fell for it
You seem like a very pleasant individual.
The title is part of the report, moron. There are no special rules that mean you can lie in the title, moron. There are no special rules that mean you have to expand on every detail in the title or else it’s not true, moron.
I’m having a hard time understanding your comment. Are you implying that media outlets don’t lie in their headlines? Are you perhaps implying that claims don’t require evidence for you to believe them?
Jesus. I’m not implying anything, everything I’ve said is explicit. Perhaps you’re having a hard time understanding because you’re looking for hidden meaning where none was intended?
The claim was made by the top level commenter, NOT_RICK. The evidence supporting this claim is the news report (and various others in the thread). That is the end of it. If you want to make a new claim, e.g. that this source is lying, then go ahead and do so. With evidence.
What you’re doing is called sealioning and there is no end to it. You wouldn’t accept the evidence unless the man himself came to your house and told you he was Muslim to your face. And then only if people were watching.
Multiple outlets are reporting he’s a Muslim man. I’d imagine others are not as his religion isn’t exactly relevant to his being a hero.
They’re not reporting it because there’s no evidence regarding this man’s religious beliefs. You just went out of your way to find a couple of clickbait headlines without even bothering to read them to spread narratives. You’re a part of the problem.
Kindly get off your high horse.
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/who-ahmed-al-ahmed-bondi-beach-hero-disarms-shotgun-wielding-terroristhes-brave-muslim-1762911
The source of this guy being muslim in the article is literally Benjamin Netanyahu…
Regardless, all I wanted was for you to provide an article that at least had a source for the claim. I don’t trust anything Netanyahu says out of principle, but still this is an article that does provide something to support the claim. It’s not a pure clickbait headline that’s misleading. So there we go, that puts whatever this was to rest.
After sleeping this off I think I was being too much of a dick needlessly. I can respect and agree with your desire to make sure facts are well vetted before potentially pushing a false narrative. Cheers mate
It’s nice to see you doing this, but you really weren’t the problem in this thread. That account was not posting in good faith. You were immediately accused of spreading misinformation, then when you politely provided evidence, they doubled down both on the sealioning and the name calling. The votes tell the story here and you did well and you did good.
Media literacy is dead. People on here are willing to believe clickbait headlines and misinformation if it pushes a narrative they subscribe to.
It’s because the ‘people’ you are talking are either propagandists or bots.
lol yes I made this account years ago in preparation for an argument as stupid as this. You sound ridiculous.