Ukraine war latest: EU agrees €90bn loan for Ukraine as Putin tells BBC the West is ‘making Russia the enemy’ - BBC News

  • plyth@feddit.org
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    1 day ago

    If you sum up death and influence, you are making a pro Russian argument. But I wasn’t making a moral argument. OP asked for imperialist reasons. If the US doesn’t honor UN law and isn’t made so by its allies and the other powerful nations, which other options does Russia have to be safe?

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      8 hours ago

      Russia hasn’t done these things because they feel unsafe; they have their own imperialist ambitions and work steadily towards those goals.

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        Why do you think so? There are enough western analysists who stress the strategic importance of Ukraine for Russian security.

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      If you really believe this, you are laughably uneducated. Probably went to school outside of Europe?

      Sure, let’s act like Russia, China, India and Iran didn’t commit some of the worst atrocities against humanity because someone else did something similar. <- This is a joke btw. Just like your argument 😎

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        8 hours ago

        Mostly Iran has been a punching bag with alot more genuine grievances against other nations than other nations have against them. Yes, their government sucks but including them in your list is a little weird.

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        I don’t understand the joke.

        Russia is not USSR. What did India do? What did Iran do that is among the worst atrocities against humanity? If they didn’t commit atrocities then what’s the argument?

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          Russia was the main political, cultural, economic, and population component of the USSR and is considered the successor state to the USSR.

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            Like Germany and Japan with the difference that Russia hasn’t lost the war. Still, where is the continuity in atrocities?