Ukraine war latest: EU agrees €90bn loan for Ukraine as Putin tells BBC the West is ‘making Russia the enemy’ - BBC News
Russia routinely makes itself the enemy by always making threats and forcing themselves on others
Classical abuser logic: they made me do it!
It’s pretty obvious to everybody that Putin is making Russia the enemy. He didn’t have to do that; Europe desperately wanted Russia to be a friend, but Putin had other ideas. It’s his conscious and explicit choice to make Russia the enemy, and he’s the one constantly talking about being at war with the west. Nobody else js doing that but Putin.
The West was making real inroads with Russia before Putin came along.
It’s the same with every dictator there has ever been, they have to manufacture a war in order to justify their iron fist.
Capitalism isn’t the best by any stretch but one of the things it’s good at is making people realise that they will be much better off financially cooperating than having a pointless little war. War generates profits for the military industrial complex, but for everyone else they cost money.
he wants the old soviet union back, where they owned most the countries in central asia, and some of eastern europe.
He wants the old Russian Empire back. Owning all the countries yes, but not even pretending to care about everyday people.
They had their purpose, moving wealth back to Russia.
Just like laws make a murder a criminal.
Russia is making Russia the enemy. If they don’t like it, they can stop that today, by ending the war, and stop being massive dickheads.
Vlad and his MAGA buddies can piss in the wind. GTFO of Ukraine (includes Crimea), East Prussia, Karelia, and the Northern Territories.
We are making Russia our enemy.
- Poisoning of Viktor Yushchenko (2004)
- Energy blackmail (2006)
- Assassination of Anna Politkovskaya (2006)
- Poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko (2006)
- Murder of Sergei Magnitsky (2009)
- Energy blackmail II (2009)
- Creation of Internet Research Agency, aka troll army (2013)
- Started war in Crimea, illegal annexation (2014)
- Started war in Donbas (2014)
- Shootdown and coverup of MH17 (2014)
- Started supporting dictator Assad in Syria (2015)
- Assassination of Boris Nemtsov (2015)
- U.S. election interference I (2016)
- French Election interference (2017)
- Sergei Skripal poisoning (2018)
- Brexit referendum influence (2018)
- U.S. election interference II (2018)
- Tiergarten assassination (2019)
- Navalny poisoning (2020)
- U.S. election interference III (2020)
- COVID-19 disinformation campaign (2020–21)
- Full-scale invasion of Ukraine (2022)
- Bucha massacre (2022)
- Weaponization of energy against EU (2022)
- Forced deportation of children from Ukraine to Russia (2022)
- Migrant weaponization (2023)
- Rheinmetall CEO assassination plot (foiled) (2024)
- Election interference in Moldova & Georgia (2024)
- U.S. election interference IV (2024)
Russia is doing nothing wrong.
Also the colonization of Africa to steal all their gold and minerals while propping up warlords in exchange for armed Russian mercs that crush dissent. That’s happening right now.
There’s chechnya war and Georgia invasion, both which happened after fall of USSR
This was definitely not an exhaustive list.
Don’t forget 2015 Jade Helm Scare, where they were testing their ability to manipulate using crazy stories on social media. Russia was able to convince gov Abbott of TX to order the TX National Guard to observe training exercises in Central TX because he was convinced that Obama had ordered the army to go into Walmarts, turn them into makeshift detention facilities and was planning to round up people that voted against him in a hostile takeover of the state. Obviously, it was just a training exercise, but the fear on the right was extreme.
Now that Trump is the one ordering national guard into cities they’re a-okay with it. Just weird
Yeah the Russian propaganda machine doesn’t mind what Trump is doing.
It’s my understanding that Jade Helm was the pilot test to see what they could do with social media. Seeing how successful it was they turned their sights to the primaries and ramped up their efforts in the 2016 election.
Lol how can he say that with a straight face.
He’s a sociopath
Do you mean to tell me Ukraine started this senseless war? No? Then fuck off you dumb old man.
Between the invasion of Ukraine, the troll farms helping inflict Trump on us, the support for fascist parties, the novichok, the airspace incursions, the underwater cable sabotage, and the deployment of drones in western countries’ airspace, that Russia’s the one who has made Russia the enemy.
Don’t fuckin’ DARVO us, Puto, we know what you’re up to. And we know that the only way this ends satisfactorily is with Putin on a meat hook.
alot of people in the western countries forget that putin has been funding all of the right wing govts plus the propaganda thats been on the rise recently. from '16-25 .
The invader says this?
Literally 2 posts up on my feed:
This is great for distracting people from the real reason things are getting worse everywhere.
It’s not just Russians, it’s Russian state sponsored operatives. Pussy Riot is also Russian and they’re out there fighting more than any of us
I think maybe Russia is making Russia the enemy.
All they had to do was nothing.
No, pootin is making Russia the enemy
All you do is invade your neighbouring country and commit war crimes, and suddenly you are labeled as the enemy… people are so cruel!
Idk man, I don’t remember the west forcing you to invade your neighbor for imperialist reasons.
Not to mention Salisbury
Look at what the west does to Iraq, Libya, Syria and other countries. How can Russia be safe if the US don’t continue arm restriction treaties and develop space weapons against MAD?
If there’s one consistent about the Russian nation, apart from invading their neighbors, it’s whataboutism. Yes, the US does awful things but Russia does awful things and for the same reasons.
I am not comparing. I am asking how Russia can be safe. OP asked about imperial reasons.
Oh my God, neither side is perfect. That means they must both be exactly the same, right??
If you sum up death and influence, you are making a pro Russian argument. But I wasn’t making a moral argument. OP asked for imperialist reasons. If the US doesn’t honor UN law and isn’t made so by its allies and the other powerful nations, which other options does Russia have to be safe?
Russia hasn’t done these things because they feel unsafe; they have their own imperialist ambitions and work steadily towards those goals.
Why do you think so? There are enough western analysists who stress the strategic importance of Ukraine for Russian security.
If you really believe this, you are laughably uneducated. Probably went to school outside of Europe?
Sure, let’s act like Russia, China, India and Iran didn’t commit some of the worst atrocities against humanity because someone else did something similar. <- This is a joke btw. Just like your argument 😎
Mostly Iran has been a punching bag with alot more genuine grievances against other nations than other nations have against them. Yes, their government sucks but including them in your list is a little weird.
India
Hey man, we already have enough problems to worry about without having to catch strays like this.
I don’t understand the joke.
Russia is not USSR. What did India do? What did Iran do that is among the worst atrocities against humanity? If they didn’t commit atrocities then what’s the argument?
Russia was the main political, cultural, economic, and population component of the USSR and is considered the successor state to the USSR.
Like Germany and Japan with the difference that Russia hasn’t lost the war. Still, where is the continuity in atrocities?
Syria? That country Russia very recently occupied to prop up a dictator who used chemical weapons against his own people? Or are we talking about a different Syria here?
Or are we talking about a different Syria here?
Are we? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_intervention_in_the_Syrian_civil_war
You mean the civil war between the authoritarian regime that only allowed one party to rule, and the rebels fighting for democracy?
After Congo, Iran and Chile, let’s not pretend that they were fighting for democracy.
fuck putin. end of story.
