Boiling lobsters while they are alive and conscious will be banned as part of a government strategy to improve animal welfare in England.

Government ministers say that “live boiling is not an acceptable killing method” for crustaceans and alternative guidance will be published.

The practice is already illegal in Switzerland, Norway and New Zealand. Animal welfare charities say that stunning lobsters with an electric gun or chilling them in cold air or ice before boiling them is more humane.

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    pain isn’t bad.

    you are projecting your fear of pain onto other animals.

    also you are implying animals that kill and ate other animals, are bad. there is no morality outside of human societies

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      pain isn’t bad.

      Pain is universally bad you fucking psycho, all sentient creatures have “experience” of some kind and pain and suffering is a tool meant to make things avoid harm so it’s more than reasonable to assume that other creatures experience it. In fact, you don’t need to assume, we’ve FUCKING STUDIED IT. Have you? have you done ANY research yourself to base this schizoid take on? We are a higher creature with greater awareness and have some measure of responsibility to reduce suffering in the world.

      Your argument can be extended to dogs and cats and babies. Which was an actual argument back in the day and they performed surgery on infants without anesthesia because “they didn’t have a concept of pain” according to people who cited vibes and an avoidance of inconvenience.

      edit: saw your moderation history, I regret spending even a moment replying to you. At least I’ll never see another comment of yours.

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      Yes, and we humans clearly live outside of human societies and thus we shouldn’t hold ourselves to human moral standards.

      It’s cute how we set ourselves apart from nature, and use terms like “humane” to mean better, refined, less brutal, yet the moment that notion might even slightly inconvenience us, then we’re just animals.

      Humanity? Pfft, fuck that! We’re just animals. We’re like cats, or dolphins!

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        That user is a troll or something, their moderation history is just a long sheet of bans and removed edgelord nonsense. I regret the minutes I spent replying.