Russia opposes Taiwan’s independence in any form and considers the island an inseparable part of China, Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said in remarks published on Sunday.
In an interview with Russia’s TASS state news agency, Lavrov also urged Japan to “think carefully” about what he described as a course towards militarisation".
Everything do not matter except that Taiwanese are the only legitimate people to decide if they want to be part of China, Japan, any other country or stay an independent country.
And the majority have chosen to not decide at all.
But there are differences between formal status and de facto status.
A truly independent state has its own government and its own military. This is critical because the Chinese government has been very clear that it will not attempt to reintegrate Taiwan by force, knowing that doing so will create a terrible resistance movement that will make life bad for everyone.
But the Chinese government is also clear that if the US brings its military to Taiwan and establishes the island as a de facto or actual US military base then it will invade. If Taiwan allows the US to establish such a base there, then the locla Taiwan government is not choosing independence but vassalage.
What? The CCP has been extremely consistent in its position that use of force is absolutely on the table.
EDIT: Fuck it’s .ml … got me again
Yes, the use of force is on the table IF the US or other nation uses Taiwan to create a threat of force against the mainland.
Not having an opinion is still a decision. As long as the majority of Taiwanese do not say yes then China has no right to take it even peacefully. The hypocritical west also has zero right to tell Taiwanese what they should do
How would the Chinese government “take” Taiwan peacefully? The Chinese government position is very clear on Taiwan - Taiwan will come to desire integration with the Chinese government over time as relations between the mainland and the island improve (remember Taiwan was openly fascist until 1992, which is only 34 years ago) and as relations between the island and the West deteriorate.
Right now, the status of Taiwan is as ambiguous as the status of the dominance of the Western global system. When the KMT fled after their loss, all of China was totally impoverished after a century of humiliation at the hands of the imperialists. As the imperialists do, to create division, they improve the material conditions for a subset of people - in this case they invested in fascist Taiwan and developed it into an economic power, just like they did with Hong Kong. The purpose of this was to make the people living in the island prefer working with the rich imperialists over working with the very very poor communists, and of course it worked. But, as the West continues to sunset, Taiwan will get less and less economic benefit from aligning with the imperialists, and the whole dynamic will slowly, naturally change.
The problem here, as ever, is not actually the Chinese government but the Western governments.
My point still stand . Taiwanese are the only people who has the right to decide right now they do not support reunification. Once they show intention I will switch my position
To be clear, the concept of “the Taiwanese people” is a modern construction. It would be like saying the people of California are the only ones who can decide if California is part of the United States of America. The people of California are in fact Americans. And while they may have an opinion about their desire to participate in the federal government, the existence of California depends entirely on the United States government for its legal basis. Additionally the territory that makes up California is of incredible critical importance to the national defense and economic ability of the United States of America to provide for the livelihood of its citizens. The people of California have no greater claim to completely independent nationhood than the people of Taiwan.
But to be abundantly clear not only do I agree with you, that the people of Taiwan have the authority to make the vast majority of decisions about their self-governance - excluding those issues that threaten the self-governance of others - but the CPC also agrees with that position and has clearly stated that position for decades. It is the US and the collective West that continue to report their speculation that China will invade Taiwan and is preparing to invade Taiwan despite literally decades of official Chinese government positioning that it will not invade Taiwan unless the United States or another foreign military uses its relationship with Taiwan to threaten the rest of China.
The USA didn’t give away California to someone else than start saying I want it back. Chinese was not always called Chinese either. Places, ethnic group names etc. change in history . I don’t see the pertinence of that.
China was invaded by Japan and lost the war. To claim China gave away the island to Japan is like saying I have my wallet to the mugger. It reveals how unserious you are in your discourse
You are killing em in here. I appreciate you.
I used to believe everything these people are saying. It took me years to recognize how propagandized I was and how ignorant of history, politics, and law I was. I thought that because I went to college and was intellectually curious and I challenged the positions of my elders and read counter-cultural texts that I was basing my views on facts and well formed reasoning.
Now that I realize just how wrong I was, and how ignorant I was, and indeed how difficult it was for me to admit that I was making all sorts of claims without the least bit of real historical engagement or understanding of the things I was talking about, now I feel compelled to disabuse people of their miseducation.
Used to be, but still are, too. Just with a different slant.
Yeah, because I spent 16 years in Chinese schools, watching movies rewritten by the Chinese military during my formative years, have members of my family in the Chinese military, adopted new parents to socialize me in China, etc.
Sorry. That’s not how this works. There’s nothing China could do that would be anything more than a drop in the ocean of propaganda and socialization I have received from the North Atlantic empire my entire life.