• Ember James@lemmy.ca
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    4 hours ago

    The fact that Hydrogen, the most readily available element in the Universe, is not our primary fuel source demonstrates how ignorant the majority of people on the planet are. If everyone knew, they would look at any other energy source as a complete waste of resources and demand better.

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      Hydrogen is a major fuel source, just not in the form that’s necessary to power hydrogen fuel cell cars. Regular gas vehicles are powered by hydrogen, since they’re a component of gasoline. Any energy generated by liquified natural gas (though I hate the term) is using hydrogen as a fuel source. It’s not exactly easy to create, liquify, store, and transport pure elemental hydrogen for use in hydrogen fuel cell cars, let alone the cost to develop all the infrastructure to do so. I don’t think it’s a collective action problem, and if we were going to rally around a singular transportation issue, I think it’d be far more valuable to demand robust public transit options.

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        1 hour ago

        Electrolysis can separate Hydrogen from Oxygen in water. It is also incredibly eco friendly, and incredibly easy to scale up. Hydrogen as a fuel also produces water vapor as a byproduct. Not to mention Hydrogen Fusion technology for Nuclear energy production will be the way if we get our collective heads on right.

        Feel free to tell me how you plan to power your theoretical public transport grid without mentioning Solar and wind farms which are are incredibly destructive to the environment to build, maintain, and operate.

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          37 minutes ago

          How are we sustainably converting elemental hydrogen into a state where it’s readily storable and transportable for use in vehicles? I’m not pushing against it as a viable energy source generally speaking, but it really doesn’t need to be in a car, where it’s used to power an electric motor in the exact same way as a battery is, except the battery can recapture energy through regenerative breaking. I was pushing back against the implication that humanity is stupid for not using hydrogen in general, because we use a lot of it.

          For the record, your all-powerful and flawless elemental hydrogen can power the grid just as readily as it could power a car. It’d be great if it were a larger share of our energy generation, for the record.

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            27 minutes ago

            The fact that Hydrogen, the most readily available element in the Universe, is not our primary fuel source demonstrates how ignorant the majority of people on the planet are. If everyone knew, they would look at any other energy source as a complete waste of resources and demand better.

            Electrolysis can separate Hydrogen from Oxygen in water. It is also incredibly eco friendly, and incredibly easy to scale up. Hydrogen as a fuel also produces water vapor as a byproduct. Not to mention Hydrogen Fusion technology for Nuclear energy production will be the way if we get our collective heads on right.

            Feel free to tell me how you plan to power your theoretical public transport grid without mentioning Solar and wind farms which are are incredibly destructive to the environment to build, maintain, and operate.

            For the record, I wasn’t speaking about personal vehicles. Nor did I make one mention of them. But since you wish to ignore my point and change the topic: If I had it my way, no one would own a personal vehicle. EV or otherwise.