Some of these people are saying the US was always bad which is rubbish.
For an example of good things that were done in the past pick at random from the $2b before trump cut it from USAID.
Why should you bring up other countries when we’re discussing the US? Especially when the US is not like any other country but the center of global imperialism?
Why should you bring up other countries when we’re discussing the US?
If you’re going to say “A” is bad you need something to compare it to as a standard. So tell me - what shining beacon of freedom and altruism would you say the US is lagging behind?
They said something is good, you said the same thing is bad. They want an example of good to compare to so they know what common reference point to use. Doesn’t seem like goal post shifting at all.
What you’re saying is different from what they implied. They instead want to shift the narrative to other countries, because should I speak of a “good thing” of another country, they would instantly retort about it and thus lead the original discussion astray, that is, that the United States is an imperialist war machine that serves the interests of its upper class. You don’t need comparison to evaluate US war crimes and crimes against humanity, unless you want to delve into whataboutism.
What IS an example of something good?
The US not intervening militarily politically and economically in other countries.
I don’t read what they said that way at all. But OK.
The US not intervening militarily politically and economically in other countries.
That doesn’t really work as an answer, though. There’s lots and lots of examples of things that the US has done that aren’t "intervening militarily, politically, and economically in other countries’. But presumably the conversation is about things they have done specifically in relation to other countries that are good, not bad.
And if so, if US AID is an example of bad, what is a specific example of good (whether US or another country)?
It is like these people always were like that and just want to jump out and finally shout some rubbish. They are just as manipulated/manipulative as MAGA.
“People who are justly upset that America is invading a country illegally like they have for a literal century are MAGA.”
MAGA is the ones who are doing it, sane people are the ones who are calling it out. You’re the one justifying that it’s okay because America does a vague good thing, while never getting into the good things they do.
It is clear now that you did not follow what was said. Upset, yes, we all are.
That does not make the whole history of all of the USA exclusively bad. That is literally was is being discussed here, despite how obviously rubbish that is.
Some of these people are saying the US was always bad which is rubbish.
For an example of good things that were done in the past pick at random from the $2b before trump cut it from USAID.
USAID had always been a soft power tool to further US imperialist interests.
Name anything good any other country has done then. And be sure to exclude things that are even a little self-serving.
Why should you bring up other countries when we’re discussing the US? Especially when the US is not like any other country but the center of global imperialism?
If you’re going to say “A” is bad you need something to compare it to as a standard. So tell me - what shining beacon of freedom and altruism would you say the US is lagging behind?
I understand that you’re trying to push the goal posts, so I am disengaging.
They said something is good, you said the same thing is bad. They want an example of good to compare to so they know what common reference point to use. Doesn’t seem like goal post shifting at all.
What IS an example of something good?
What you’re saying is different from what they implied. They instead want to shift the narrative to other countries, because should I speak of a “good thing” of another country, they would instantly retort about it and thus lead the original discussion astray, that is, that the United States is an imperialist war machine that serves the interests of its upper class. You don’t need comparison to evaluate US war crimes and crimes against humanity, unless you want to delve into whataboutism.
The US not intervening militarily politically and economically in other countries.
I don’t read what they said that way at all. But OK.
That doesn’t really work as an answer, though. There’s lots and lots of examples of things that the US has done that aren’t "intervening militarily, politically, and economically in other countries’. But presumably the conversation is about things they have done specifically in relation to other countries that are good, not bad.
And if so, if US AID is an example of bad, what is a specific example of good (whether US or another country)?
It is like these people always were like that and just want to jump out and finally shout some rubbish. They are just as manipulated/manipulative as MAGA.
“People who are justly upset that America is invading a country illegally like they have for a literal century are MAGA.”
MAGA is the ones who are doing it, sane people are the ones who are calling it out. You’re the one justifying that it’s okay because America does a vague good thing, while never getting into the good things they do.
It is clear now that you did not follow what was said. Upset, yes, we all are. That does not make the whole history of all of the USA exclusively bad. That is literally was is being discussed here, despite how obviously rubbish that is.
Name a couple good things the US has done?
He still hasn’t and says anyone who says America has done bad things is a maga.