• Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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    Be nice if Americans had their shit together enough that the rest of the world didn’t have to deal with this in the first place. But no, the electorate of the most powerful country on earth are a bunch of squealing idiot children, and now that’s everyone else’s problem to fix.

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      It’s more complicated than that. They live in an informational dystopia where they’re taught from childhood that they are some kind of supreme nation to stand above all others. That they are the epitome of freedom and goodness. That their version of freedom is the pinnacle of what it means to be free. You know rather like what North Korea does. They even have their own version of history, where they believe that they stepped in and solved WWII, despite coming in on the butt-end of things. A version of history where they don’t commit all the atrocities they’ve been committing since before their country’s inception. Again like North Korea.

      They only have two parties, both are absolute dogshit, and there’s no logical sense behind how their voting works because you can just draw up arbitrary districts to favour one party or another, meaning that whoever votes for the underdog in said district might as well stay home because their vote won’t count anyway.

      The U.S. has always been a budding fascist dictatorship, with their exceptionalist self-view and idea that they should be the world police. It’s only in recent years that they’ve really let their civilised façade crumble enough that people can help but see that the emperor is in fact stark naked, and raping children.

      TLDR: It doesn’t matter how many people vote correctly because they’re a fascist far-right dictatorship and all votes will lead to hell anyway.

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        Not to disagree with anything you said, but be careful applying American exceptionalism to the problem of fascism. This shit is international. We attract the worst people from around the globe to push hard here, but everywhere in the English-speaking world is backsliding under the same influence campaigns, and they see and support their fellow fascists in non-English countries. Many of our worst influences are foreign born (Musk, Thiel, Murdock) and hold no devotion to the US. It’s just the most profitable market to capture. But they won’t stop here.

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          Oh, absolutely. I’m not saying that American exceptionalism is the root of all fascism, but it is certainly an excellent lubricant for it in the U.S.; you can get away with a lot if the populace believes that their actions are just, and much of the west has viewed the U.S. as the arbiter of justice.

          The problem with American exceptionalism is more that the U.S. has held immense soft power for a very long time now. For example, it’s not just Americans that believe that they won WWII, people here in Europe believe that as well. Reality is obviously more complicated than that, yet people get utterly shocked when you bring up just how important the Russians were in WWII, and what a massive sacrifice of life they put down. Never mind that of India.

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      It’s crazy how many people try to be smug about this.

      All you’re doing is telling everyone it took shit this blatant and obvious for you to notice if you think this is a new problem.

      I understand being ignorant of another country’s system of government, but how do you not know all the fucked up shit that’s been happening before this to think it’s new?

      The “big 3” have been doing this shit for centuries, and before that it was just different countries.

      Shuffling the countries around like you want to won’t solve shit. It just perpetuates the system itself…

      Have you put any thought into this?

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        They didn’t say it was new. They said that now it’s so bad it’s everyone’s problem to deal with.