No, this is about adding guidelines for tool-generated submissions to the kernel. The tailwind conversation was on making their documentations more accessible to AI tools.
Linus doesn’t want to add guidelines to not fuel any side of the whole discussion, and says that adding guidelines won’t solve the problem because a lot of times it’s not trivial to detect whether or not a contribution was written with AI tools, after all, “documentation is for good actors”, hinting that anyone contributing AI slop is not expected to respect it anyway.
Linus doesn’t want to add guidelines to not fuel any side of the whole discussion […]
Sounds like “don’t feed the trolls”. And “don’t waste time with discussing spam”.
Apart from that, if GenAI could write good code, it would be acceptable. The thing to do is to scrutinize code for looking plausible while really being bullshit, or subtly wrong.
That’s pretty mild compared to what I’m afraid of. Of course that it’s not good that he is that way, although I would argue that any kind of bugzilla of an open source project is a toxic environment in itself, but that’s not “rape-slaves in the basement” level kind of stuff
He is almost always right. He just expresses it in a way that hurts people a lot, and thats something he needs to work on. The term toxic is over used but yeah, he was very rude, insensitive, and offensive sometimes.
Is thisa reference to that Tailwind PR?
holy shit I did not expect it to go that low
That PR was quite the ride, thank you for that. Also, I feel for the maintainer guy :(
No, this is about adding guidelines for tool-generated submissions to the kernel. The tailwind conversation was on making their documentations more accessible to AI tools.
Linus doesn’t want to add guidelines to not fuel any side of the whole discussion, and says that adding guidelines won’t solve the problem because a lot of times it’s not trivial to detect whether or not a contribution was written with AI tools, after all, “documentation is for good actors”, hinting that anyone contributing AI slop is not expected to respect it anyway.
Sounds like “don’t feed the trolls”. And “don’t waste time with discussing spam”.
Apart from that, if GenAI could write good code, it would be acceptable. The thing to do is to scrutinize code for looking plausible while really being bullshit, or subtly wrong.
Thank you for that context. I fear the day we discover something bad about Linus. In my eyes he’s been very based since forever
Your going to be dissapointed then.
He’s very toxic.
He has gotten help
That being said, I still love the guy. But he is a known hot head.
That’s pretty mild compared to what I’m afraid of. Of course that it’s not good that he is that way, although I would argue that any kind of bugzilla of an open source project is a toxic environment in itself, but that’s not “rape-slaves in the basement” level kind of stuff
He is almost always right. He just expresses it in a way that hurts people a lot, and thats something he needs to work on. The term toxic is over used but yeah, he was very rude, insensitive, and offensive sometimes.
Damn I’m in the loop on this one for once