• Almacca@aussie.zone
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    Also, most CEOs will suffer no negative consequences for their dumb decisions, and will probably even get multi-million dollar bonuses regardless.

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      Exactly, the vision was flawless, it will all be blamed on the execution. The people who failed to build it will be held accountable though; departments of them…

      Fucking awesome system we have here.

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    So what has effectively happened? Just… Ruined a bunch of stuff and destabilized a bunch of society and lined the pockets of a few companies?

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    The CEOs are investing in AI to put on airs for investors and inflate their company valuation, often pissing off customers and losing sales in the process. It’s evidently a worthy trade-off to make number go up.

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    All this article is showing is that a large number of CEOs are swayed by hype and make poor decisions. What other poor decisions are they making all the time?

    I am thoroughly convinced that the MBA is the most useless degree ever because when you look at how large businesses run so poorly, and are run by MBAs.

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      You are correct. The issue is one of projection. CEOs and MBAs think AI is amazing and can replace everyone because it can replace them. They are the ones replaceable. So they think AI is so amazing and they should use it to replace everyone else.

      Folks doing actual work with meaningful output absolutely can and should use AI as a force multipyer where applicable, but they know they’re meaningful work can’t be fully replaced.

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      In Japan, engineeing companies are run by the engineers which I think is the better way.

      Ill never understand why American companies insist on being led by business majors who know nothing and dont care about the product being built.

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        Are they? Rakuten is led by a business guru and the products are subpar unless they bought them. Also Japan has a huge deficit of native engineers, so most of the engineers at this kind of companies are Chinese and Indian. Which companies are you thinking about?

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          i always thought the car makers and other manufacturers were engineed led. I admit i am no expert in modern Japanese business.

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        Because the thing that makes American companies make money isn’t the production of better products its “business magic” that games stock prices. its been that way for a long time.

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          Sadly the virtuous circle of profits being put back into research and development seems badly broken in so many business now.

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        Look I want kids to grow up and be able to pursue any passion they want, but we have to ask serious real world questions here about Austerity and I am starting to think we should entirely cut MBA programs and in general business education.

        I know that sounds extreme, but we have to focus on training kids on skills that will actually be productive, useful and lead to new breakthroughs. We clearly need to fund the hard stuff like art, music and theater or we are going to collapse as a society and continue to fall behind more competitive nations because we got distracted by fluff and empty ideologies masquerading as knowledge, MBAs being exhibit A.

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      Especially when being one of dual training, IT and business, it’s so obvious there’s a lot of bullshit.

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      The purpose of business school MBAs is nothing more than networking. These degrees cost a fortune, and that’s exactly the point: to bring opportunists together. I’m almost sure it’s next to impossible to fail this degree, because it’s not about knowledge at all, but merely about gaining entry into senior management.

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        Sort of, there are actually smart people who go there too. The kids with connections to the jobs pull smart kids with them and then use them as workhorses and basically claim all the glory from their work. Then you might get poached by someone willing to pay more who is less abusive.

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      What other poor decisions are they making all the time?

      See also: investment in Theranos.

      These people are so easy to fucking scam with buzzwords and the right “look.”

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        I find it interesting how Sam Altman has the same continuous vocal fry Elizabeth Holmes used to have. It’s infuriating how well a cheap impression of gravitas performs with investors.

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      I mean… its worse than that.

      Its definitive proof that we live in an anti-meritocratic society, that is ruled by nepotism and violent and dangerous sociopaths.

      Yes, its violence if it goes through a complex system for the violence to happen, is done indirectly.

      So yeah, our lives are ruled (and ruined) by utterly incompetent dangerous sociopaths, who will gleefully destroy the entire economy because… they like buzzwords and feeling like they are smart.

      We either need to kill these people, or they will kill all of us, just give it a decade.

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      AI is the new “nobody ever got fired for buying IBM”.

      You’re either following the crowd or getting replaced by someone who will. Its insane

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      Meanwhile, small family-owned businesses struggle so hard financially, but make miracles to stay afloat for decades, taking the most viable long-term decisions, despite the lack of options and resource. And these people often have no formal education in the area, just the survival instinct and the pressure of a family to feed.

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      Welcome to short term shareholder value economy. They will fuck the planet and the working class so that line go up 📈

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      One factor here is that they are all under pressure from their boards and investors not to miss the AI wave and get left behind. All companies are doing some level of AI theater. Some actually believe it. But it’s not like hundreds of CEOs all came to this judgment purely on their own, with no outside influences. It’s a mass craze.

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      Every CEO I’ve ever worked for except one, has been a moron. And the scary thing is that these morons, have also been criminals. They of course didn’t view themselves as criminals, because what they did was “smart”, not crime.

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      But they can be made to look good on paper. That’s where it counts. At least for the people being paid to make those bad decisions and obfuscate it with “good” numbers.

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      Any bad decision that’s made by an exec is usually just met with nods and grins by the workers while they do what’s actually necessary and try only half heartedly to follow their edicts. Execs usually have no idea what a pilot program is and every decision they make is pure gold so why not roll it out to everybody at once.

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      Broken systems elevate psychopath leaders into positions of wealth and power, and people who want those things exploit the fastest path there by getting degrees who put you on that track.

      By this MBA logic, do we close CompSci for the the poor code coming out of Microsoft, close Law Schools because social rights are being lost, engineering schoolings because infrastructure doesn’t meet current needs?

      My point is to blame the CEOs and their shitty behaviour, not the schools that, to my knowledge, try to educate reasonable policy, law, ethics, HR, etc.

      Disclaimer: not an MBA

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        What school encourages ethical business practices? Most schools have a 1 credit hour class on business ethics, but really teach you legalism and how to avoid breaking the law. Nowhere are they teaching actual ethics in business

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        The point is we don’t need more MBAs, we need people educated in useful skills. Should every MBA program be closed? No probably not, but we definitely have way more than we need. Cutting funding for things like MBA scholarships and closing down the majority of those programs will go a long way towards moving the majority of potential future MBA students into useful programs. We need less managers and more engineers, fewer CEOs and more chemists, hell fewer analysts and more plumbers.

        There are many problems with modern capitalism and even if we never handed out another MBA degree again that would not even remotely solve everything, but the MBAs are making the problem worse. It’s a minor thing but it’s an easy thing to do and it would make a difference small as it is.

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          I think organizing labor is a useful skill. I just think doing it to the sole benefit of “shareholder value” is what’s killing us. Is that liberal of me? I can’t imagine a society where work isn’t done by people and work needs some form of organization.

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            Sure it’s a useful skill but not one in significant demand. We have an absolute glut of MBAs and a desperate need for anything but an MBA so why are we paying people to get more MBAs?

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    The article is sort of interesting and I hope people take a gander rather than headline skim to affirm a bias and internally bridge the narrative gap.

    The article says the report blames the lack of payoff on lack of implementation rather than on AI tooling itself. That is, companies need to fully integrate with AI because piecemeal isn’t working. Quite the opposite of what many people commenting here are assuming the takeaway was.

    That means even more bad times ahead for people who wake up every morning and make the world happen and society function. Assuming PwC’s advice is taken to heart and job displacement remains the primary motivator rather than force multiplication.

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      Thanks for reminding us to resist giving in to confirmation bias. And thanks for the summary! I’ll go read the article now for the full picture

      Edit:

      Is PwC advising clients not to worry if an AI pilot project fails, and push ahead with a large-scale deployment anyway?

      I hope that any cultist CEO that rolls out this crap gets bitten hard by their hubris, that they become an example for the rest

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    I tend to be skeptical of the reactionary AI is always slop trend. I’m sympathetic to it because it’s a response to the hype machine that knows no prudence. But damn when you say

    “Your next move: Build AI foundations. Our work with organisations confirms mounting evidence that isolated, tactical AI projects often don’t deliver measurable value. Tangible returns come from enterprise-scale deployment consistent with company business strategy.”

    I read this as marketing. What’s the evidence you’ve been gathering? Why do you believe your projects are applicable to all companies? What happens if we invest and it doesn’t help like you say it will?

    This is like saying the solution to your relationship troubles is having a baby. No… No this is not the solution. Make my smaller projects work and show return and then we talk larger commitments.

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      40% fired a bunch of stuff who are either working harder or were actually able to leverage llm for some of their work.

      AI didn’t have to do a good job, it just gave them an excuse to slash people

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        Most CEOs say their companies aren’t yet seeing a financial return from investments in AI. Although close to a third (30%) report increased revenue from AI in the last 12 months and a quarter (26%) are seeing lower costs, more than half (56%) say they’ve realised neither revenue nor cost benefits.

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          I’d love to know more about that 30% reported increase and how real it is (I know this is never going to happen). Is it a) Nvidia<=>OpenAI b2b stuff where they increased revenue by grifting some other CEO b) massaging the numbers to make it look like AI is popular - Microsoft Office+Copilot style or c) there is genuinely something valuable that people are buying

          I feel like there is a whole lot of b) going on with companies baking AI into popular products and then going “ooh line gonup, must be AI” but I could be wrong.

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    CEOs keep trying to shoehorn AI into replacing skilled labor positions, when the positions that AI could easily replace are obviously CEOs and the rest of the executive suite. Obviously they are so shit at their jobs that they can’t research well enough to make informed decisions about tech implementation.

    Other than being a money vacuum, there isn’t a single thing that CEOs do better than an LLM. Replace them, give their fat paychecks to the employees, and watch the company do better than it ever has.

    I hate AI, but it’s still preferable to sociopath capitalists.

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      This is just patently false.

      The CEO can play golf better than an LLM, he can schmooze and booze better than an LLM.

      They can use nepotism to get favorable contracts . Good luck getting an LLM to do that

      Most important of all they can cover their blatant disregard for the laws better than an LLM.

      This is how Business decisions are made. Shits fucked.

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      I’ve sold AI systems to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook! And by gum it put them on the map!

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    Sure, the majority aren’t seeing a payoff. But we only really care about the Magnificent Seven and their increased revenue from government contracts (particularly Pentagon weapons platforms and public-private surveillance deals).

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      And they can’t afford to stay behind in their opinion. If there’s a chance general AI works and they’re not using it when it kicks in, they’re going to be left behind in the dust.

      Of course this would also shake apart the labor market, the remaining taters of the social fabric and the economy, but that’s a problem for next quarter.