I can’t even feel superior to everyone when theirs so many arch installers!! I use real arch btw. I thought “I guess I should go to Gentoo” but then wait, CHROMEOS IS A GENTOO INSTALLER!

I feel like we only have two options now

  1. Ascend to BSD-land
  2. Ironically supporting Windows Unironically

edit: I have decided to replace my debian laptop with BSD

  • evol@lemmy.todayOPEnglish
    52·
    4 days ago

    Ive noticed this, arch almost just works but my nixOS friends are always complaining about something

    • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
      18·
      4 days ago

      Yessss…

      Come to Gentooooo.

      Come.

      Muahahahhahaha. *Lightning & Thunder!*

      • msage@programming.dev
        7·
        4 days ago

        Gentoo is easy and almost user-friendly.

        Specially coming from Arch it should be a breeze.

        Plan9 sounds like a more exclusive deal.

        • thejml@sh.itjust.works
          7·
          4 days ago

          As someone who installed Gentoo from nothing but a Stage 1 iso and kernel tarball back in 2003, this is crazy to read. I was able to squeeze so much performance out of a 300mhz embedded board back then though compared to most distros… after the 6hr kernel build.

          • msage@programming.dev
            4·
            3 days ago

            Stage 1 and 2 are no longer available (I mean technically you could, but it’s not suggested). Stage 3 was super easy, even with kernel from source.

            It takes time, sure, but it can compile on background. I got 16 threads on my CPU, so leaving 12 for emerge, I can still use the PC.

            I get that people joke about ‘days of compiling’, and maybe it’s real for a huge mass of packages, but even if, it doesn’t stop me from working.

            • thejml@sh.itjust.works
              4·
              3 days ago

              Remember, the days of compiling was back when we were running this on 300-500Mhz single core CPUs with 5400RPM spinning rust and RAM amounts in the hundreds of MB.

              The embedded system I was putting this on was a 300Mhz single core low power AMD processor with 256MB and a laptop 4200RPM 4GB drive. And yeah, it probably took over a day to compile everything… but it ran much faster than a stock kernel as I could customize the system to only have what it needed and leverage the on-chip ssl and video acceleration support. I used it for a NAS and home server for years.

              • msage@programming.dev
                1·
                3 days ago

                I know, but that’s so long ago, yet the jokes are here anyway.

                Which is shame, as it seems to be scaring away potential users.

        • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
          31·
          4 days ago

          Gentoo is easy and almost user-friendly.

          Specially coming from Arch it should be a breeze.

          Less prone to randomly biting your head off anyway.

          More tame.

          Takes more petting though, to get it to settle.

          • msage@programming.dev
            1·
            3 days ago

            Really?

            I never tried Arch, so I can’t compare.

            Apart from initramfs from install, which took more time, it felt like everything else just worked. Including installing Steam.

            • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
              2·
              3 days ago

              Really?

              Yes. Gentoo really is like that compared to arch.

              I never tried Arch, so I can’t compare.

              Oh.

              Specially coming from Arch it should be a breeze.

              That^ made it seem to me like you had.

              • msage@programming.dev
                2·
                3 days ago

                I just read a lot of Wiki.

                But when I discovered how cool it is to compile stuff, I went straight to Gentoo, assuming it’s mostly the same apart from packaging.

                • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
                  2·
                  3 days ago

                  Before I tried gentoo (or rather sabayon, for 3 years before gentoo proper), from all the “you have to compile everything”, I imagined that as a lot of running “make”. I didn’t realise it’s even easier1 than other package managers.

                  1 emerge is shorter to type than e.g. apt-get install

                  • msage@programming.dev
                    1·
                    2 days ago

                    Yeah, it’s insane how easy to use Gentoo is.

                    Nobody will take it from me. But I admit to only using it on desktop, laptop is using Mint. If I ever find time to play around with a build server, I will try switching there, too.