Almost every program that we run has access to the environment, so nothing stops them from curling our credentials to some nefarious server.
Why don’t we put credentials in files and then pass them to the programs that need them? Maybe coupled with some mechanism that prevents executables from reading any random file except those approved.
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I am not familiar with the software bubblewrap so I am just picturing your hard drives wrapped up inside your case.
That’s an old white-hat trick. If the tables drop, the wrap helps them bounce.
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The environment of other processes is readable in procfs.
/proc/PID/environThanks to the permissions it’s read-only, and only by the user with which the process runs, but it’s still bad, I think
Don’t all programs run as the user anyways? That changes nothing on a single user machine
A proper server should have one user per service.
yay password rotation month
Service users generally don’t have passwords
You don’t login as service users, they’re just a means of taking advantage of the user separation features. They have the login shell set to /bin/false typically.
Not
/bin/nologin/?From a quick search I’ve just done, the major difference is that
/bin/falsecan’t return any text, the only thing it can do as specified via POSIX standards is returnfalse.So if you set someone’s shell to
/bin/nologinthere can be some text that says “You’re not allowed shell access”, similar to what happens if you try to SSH into say GitHub.Of course, for a service account that won’t be operated by a person, that doesn’t matter - so whichever one you use is just whichever the operator thought of first, most likely.
true dat; false trends to CVE vs nologin
Some have their own users, like gitlab
I have a rule that credentials in environment variables are to only ever be loaded as needed via some sort of secrets manager, optionally adding a wrapper script to do so transparently.
The whole point of passing secrets as environment variables is to avoid having things in files in plain and in known locations easy to scrape up by any malware.
Now we have people going full circle and slapping those into a
.envfile.But how do you authenticate to your secret manager? How do you prevent evil scripts from also doing this?
I type my password, or on the work MacBook, TouchID. I’d imagine yubikeys would do too.
You could decrypt a GPG key-based file to do that.
I’d be very thankful for an example of your setup. I’m using Bitwardern for browser-related password management, but for convenience scripts I load the credentials as env vars at login through
.bash_profile😅Basically just have each sets of credentials in a script, and whenever you need to use something that needs a key, you source the script you need first.
Then each of those scripts are something like
export MY_API_KEY="$(bw get password whatever)"thank you!
No no see the credentials have been towed outside the environment.
The frontend fell off!
Environment variables can be set individually for each app, no need to set them globally. If you put credentials on files, that file can be read by any program also if you don’t isolate it, as you should do with environment variables too.
The classic Unix user and permission system provides a solution for this.
Create a user for the app you are worried about. Make the environment variables available to that user only.
Other apps can’t read the secrets, and if the app itself gets exploited, it has access to the secrets in any case.
I suppose in a well configured Docker or Kubernetes environment this doesn’t matter that much. Also, in Kubernetes, “secrets” can be passed as read-only files.
If you run a binary written with bad intentions, you’re doomed anyway.
This is the security model we have currently.
CRED=$(fancy-get-cred) do-stuffdo-stuffhas${CRED}but nothing else does. wrap in a shell script.Global credentials are yuck
CyberArk is a commercial product that attacks this problem space. It puts an agent process on the host next to your app. Only processes whose fingerprint matches those authorized to access a credential are allowed to fetch it. That fingerprint can be based on the host (known list of production hosts), the os user ID that owns the pid, the path to the executable for the pid, and probably a few more items.
Under that model your app just needs to know the environment that it wants (inject however you want) and the userid it wants to use. At runtime it reaches out to the local cyberark agent to obtain the password secret.
Under this model, a proprietary, closed source process can access all your secrets.
great point…is there an open source equivalent?
no, because there are superior approaches already, some of them you can find in this post
boooo
eh… good luck
What’s the goal?
There are extra steps you can take to try to improve the security against malware, but using environment variables instead of hard coding isn’t really intended for that, I don’t think.
It’s just to stop accidental leaks with stuff like git and other code sharing.
