!piracy@lemmy.ml has also been blocked from lemmy.world.

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Lemmy.world has released an official response.

  • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    To be honest, it’s not a huge deal. The copyright cartel can easily send dmca requests to your isp just for having text guidelines. Not everyone has the bandwidth or energy to deal with stuff like that.

    I just wish this wasn’t done at the request of a transphobic racist who just did it to get back at is for getting banned for making transphobic and racist communities in this instance.

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      Don’t need lemmy world anyways. This is the most based instance on the entire fediverse. Their loss.

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        One of the most popular instance. This is why federation is necessary and people should create accounts in different servers instead of pulling everyone to one server calling it tge “official” or “main” server

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        At least they blocked a community and not the entire instance. This is how these things should be handled, imo

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      So beehaw was right whey they defederated from .world, there is shadiness there…

      PS: this is one of the best communities in the fediverse, good job.

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        Beehaw’s reasons for defederation were completely unrelated to what’s happening now. They didn’t want the general public to have access to their “safe” community.

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          there’s more to “the general public” besides 2 instances. beehaw defederated from .world and sijw because the mod tooling to handle a huge influx of people isn’t ready, and it still isn’t ready. (and the rest of their defederations are an off the shelf mastodon blocklist import which all instances should do imo and a few explicitly unmoderated instances. oh and porn i think)

          beehaw federates just fine with the instance i’m on, for example.

          if they wanted to defederate completely, lemmy does support allowlist federation, and i’m pretty sure their admins know about it.

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    Fucking Lemmy.world is hot garbage. They’re down every day and are constantly defederating with any instance that doesn’t fit their narrow, sanitized world views. It’s also one of the most recommended Lemmy’s with more new users going there than anywhere else. I think it incredibly damaging in the long run to have 50% of active users on this platform to be centralized on one domain. Especially if this domain makes as many boneheaded decisions as lemmy.world

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      A lot of people register there initially to get their feet wet and move on to another instance later for these reasons. At least we have subscriptions/blocks transferring tools now.

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      I think it incredibly damaging in the long run to have 50% of active users on this platform to be centralized on one domain.

      I agree, but 50% is still better than 100%. I definitely appreciate that I’m reading about this while being totally unaffected personally rather than just disappearing entirely like what happens with a banned subreddit.

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        We badly need Lemmy clients that can merge instances even if they’re defederated, as well as the other way around, filter out entire instances even if your instance won’t defederate from them. Letting instance owners dictate what you can or cannot see is not the way.

        There are clients that will do the former (eg. Liftoff) but I’m not aware of any that will do the latter. I don’t understand why, it can’t be that hard to filter users and communities by instance.

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      The snitch came from your instance btw. Keep an eye out for @Bungiefan_ak@lemm.ee

      I deleted my .world account

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    Was to lazy to change instances even though .world was always down. Actively censoring made me finally pull the plug. Thanks for helping me out I guess

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    This feels like an obvious bullshit cop-out reason to defederate against a specific community that they don’t like for whatever silly reason they can’t reveal to the public.

    Never have I seen an actual link to content survive very long on lemmy.ml or dbzer0.com. Just like the good old /r/Piracy we discuss piracy, but we do not directly facilitate it.

    Someone please slap the back of their heads repeatedly and aggressively with these facts. This excuse is disingenuous as hell.

    If you are a user of lemmy.world; RUN. NOW! Find a new instance. Switch away from them before they reach terminal enshitification velocity.

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    I was on Lemmy World too, but lately they’ve started to restrict more and more. Restricting access to piracy was my limit

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        Doesn’t matter who started it, all that matters is how the admins handle it. If all it takes is a new user asking for a community or instance to be blocked/de-federated and it just happens no questions asked, the admin in charge are to blame, not the person for asking.

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    Lemmy.world overtook beehaw and .ml because they promised to not go bonkers with power tripping defederation. Now they’re beehaw but with far more power over lemmy. Fuck that instance.

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          Well, not if the communities are distributed across several large instances, no?

          Small istances don’t have the resources to host large communities

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    Made the switch from lemmy.world the other day due to this. Not necessarily because of who they defederated/blocked, but because this happens with little/no consultation or communication with the user base. The frequency of it became frustrating; who knows what other community/instance will be blocked on a whim next?

    I appreciate that the LW admins do this as a hobby in their free time, but things like this could be approached in a better way, or at the very least with better communication. I found out about this via a post in /c/mildlyinfuriating, which in itself was mildly infuriating lol.

    Migrated to this instance, and I can choose via Connect which instances or communities I want to see. Should have done this sooner.

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      TBF it doesn’t seem like they were against piracy per se, they just wanted to avoid potential liability. That said, I’ve still moved on to another instance.

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        This 100%

        I don’t know why people are making this dramatic, this was absolutely a functional and pragmatic decision.

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    Was there some context or discussion about that over there? If I recall correctly, lemmy.world is hosted in Germany, right? The lawyers there are quite extreme when it comes to cracking down on piracy; is a whole business model… So maybe .world is just overly cautious

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      Fucking Germany. Like I get having the laws, but they are being abused for absolute nonsense.

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      I’m on a german instance (feddit.de) and it’s federated with db0.

      I think it’s just lemmy.world bullshit.

      Has anyone read their post about their downtime?

      “We shouldn’t close registration or limit the amount of communities because we’re not even the biggest instance in the fediverse

      Like, what?! The argument was always that they are the biggest in Lemmy! It felt like they were trying to gaslight the users.

      Same as the other arguments, like new users being weirded out if they can’t register to lemmy.world or apps using them as default. So them being down all the time doesn’t matter? Or that lemmy.ml was the biggest instance and closed down registration and new users registered to other instances without a problem?

      I’m really weirded out how hard they try to be the “main” thing on Lemmy.

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        Almost like an “intentional and kinda aggressive lib takeover”. I wouldn’t put it past the admins to try monetizing their users at some point.

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    Lemmy.world is dogshit. It feels like a nanny instance or like a reddit 2.0. Idk why people keep joining that bullshit instead of spreading out.

    I’m so happy that I joined a small instance that hasn’t defederated or been defederated from anyone

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    https://lemm.ee/post/4235833

    A transphobic troll got spanked and then retaliated with that post and the .world admins were stupid enough to blindly follow the directions of an alt-right turd.

    Just saying.

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      Not just transphobic but racist as well and going by the posted pebbleyeet memes probably also fascist. Sad that the lemmy.world admins took the bait especially after dealing with constant ddos themselves for kicking off their own trolls

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      Source for this person being transphobic? I’m not saying you’re wrong, I just don’t know where this is coming from…

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        About 5 shitty memes that are now deleted, that’s what this post is in response to in the first place.