!piracy@lemmy.ml has also been blocked from lemmy.world.
edit:
Lemmy.world has released an official response.
To be honest, it’s not a huge deal. The copyright cartel can easily send dmca requests to your isp just for having text guidelines. Not everyone has the bandwidth or energy to deal with stuff like that.
I just wish this wasn’t done at the request of a transphobic racist who just did it to get back at is for getting banned for making transphobic and racist communities in this instance.
Don’t need lemmy world anyways. This is the most based instance on the entire fediverse. Their loss.
One of the most popular instance. This is why federation is necessary and people should create accounts in different servers instead of pulling everyone to one server calling it tge “official” or “main” server
At least they blocked a community and not the entire instance. This is how these things should be handled, imo
Keep it up db0, a lot of us across the fediverse appreciate what you’ve built!
So beehaw was right whey they defederated from .world, there is shadiness there…
PS: this is one of the best communities in the fediverse, good job.
Beehaw’s reasons for defederation were completely unrelated to what’s happening now. They didn’t want the general public to have access to their “safe” community.
there’s more to “the general public” besides 2 instances. beehaw defederated from .world and sijw because the mod tooling to handle a huge influx of people isn’t ready, and it still isn’t ready. (and the rest of their defederations are an off the shelf mastodon blocklist import which all instances should do imo and a few explicitly unmoderated instances. oh and porn i think)
beehaw federates just fine with the instance i’m on, for example.
if they wanted to defederate completely, lemmy does support allowlist federation, and i’m pretty sure their admins know about it.
Fucking Lemmy.world is hot garbage. They’re down every day and are constantly defederating with any instance that doesn’t fit their narrow, sanitized world views. It’s also one of the most recommended Lemmy’s with more new users going there than anywhere else. I think it incredibly damaging in the long run to have 50% of active users on this platform to be centralized on one domain. Especially if this domain makes as many boneheaded decisions as lemmy.world
A lot of people register there initially to get their feet wet and move on to another instance later for these reasons. At least we have subscriptions/blocks transferring tools now.
I did it the moment they decided not to defederate from Meta. I don’t like admins who can’t take decisive actions to protect their users (and apparently seem to bend their knees to any big corpo out there)
I think it incredibly damaging in the long run to have 50% of active users on this platform to be centralized on one domain.
I agree, but 50% is still better than 100%. I definitely appreciate that I’m reading about this while being totally unaffected personally rather than just disappearing entirely like what happens with a banned subreddit.
We badly need Lemmy clients that can merge instances even if they’re defederated, as well as the other way around, filter out entire instances even if your instance won’t defederate from them. Letting instance owners dictate what you can or cannot see is not the way.
There are clients that will do the former (eg. Liftoff) but I’m not aware of any that will do the latter. I don’t understand why, it can’t be that hard to filter users and communities by instance.
I wanna say connect could do it for a while now. It’ll certainly come to many clients
Yep, I agree. Yet another reason I just spun up my own instance and use that.
100% spot on. I got called all sorts of names for pointing this out, but maybe my own fault for pointing it out on one of their posts! 😅
They should have shut down registrations a long time before they gained such a majority of users.
They stand behind the lie that “if we didn’t let people in, they wouldn’t know where to go”… as if it’s so hard to create a new registration page that re-routes people to other instances.
I’ll never understand the selfishness of people like that. They know they’re actively hurting all of lemmy, but they want to keep all the users to themselves. This thing only works if it’s a collection of smaller instances.
The snitch came from your instance btw. Keep an eye out for @Bungiefan_ak@lemm.ee
I deleted my .world account
@Bungiefan_ak@lemm.ee joined 8 hours ago.
Bungiefan_ak appears to have literally two hobbies, and they’re being anti-piracy and actively a fascist.
Funny how that works out.
same account name (different instance) is also posting transphobia on https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nomoretroons
Bruh what the actual fuck.
Its been deleted now, but that person has successfully trolled every lemmy.world user and is obviously full of hate and intolerance.
The shit that really gets my goat, is that they had this patriotic spin to their comments about how it’s illegal. Like sure, whatever but you could just stfu and mind your business, y’know? Oh well, trolls gonna troll and get banned, lol.
Let the garbage go there
I think lemmy.world gather the kind of redditors that like sanitized world views, the power of decentralization makes us choose an instance without those hot garbaje takes as lemmy.world.
@tron @Madbrad200 >Fucking Lemmy.world is hot garbage. They’re down every day and are constantly defederating with any instance that doesn’t fit their narrow, sanitized world views.
welcome to the fedi, first day here? :guraKekw:
Was to lazy to change instances even though .world was always down. Actively censoring made me finally pull the plug. Thanks for helping me out I guess
I just made an account to discover that we’re blocked. Wtf lol, this is my first post.
This feels like an obvious bullshit cop-out reason to defederate against a specific community that they don’t like for whatever silly reason they can’t reveal to the public.
Never have I seen an actual link to content survive very long on lemmy.ml or dbzer0.com. Just like the good old /r/Piracy we discuss piracy, but we do not directly facilitate it.
Someone please slap the back of their heads repeatedly and aggressively with these facts. This excuse is disingenuous as hell.
If you are a user of lemmy.world; RUN. NOW! Find a new instance. Switch away from them before they reach terminal enshitification velocity.
enshitification
You’re already misusing our cool new word. Cut it out.
No. It is enshitification. Do not @ me.
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Have you read the definition? It’s a platform reducing the quality of services to increase profit. Nothing about this is to increase profit.
You are 120% wrong and it IS enshitification.
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I am using the actual definition. Saying you are x percent wrong isn’t an arguement. You’re just making yourself look bad.
This is Doctorow’s made up word.
Too many people don’t know what it actually means.
Made the switch from lemmy.world the other day due to this. Not necessarily because of who they defederated/blocked, but because this happens with little/no consultation or communication with the user base. The frequency of it became frustrating; who knows what other community/instance will be blocked on a whim next?
I appreciate that the LW admins do this as a hobby in their free time, but things like this could be approached in a better way, or at the very least with better communication. I found out about this via a post in /c/mildlyinfuriating, which in itself was mildly infuriating lol.
Migrated to this instance, and I can choose via Connect which instances or communities I want to see. Should have done this sooner.
And just like that I learned about a Steam Deck piracy community.
Something something Streisand Effect.
TBF it doesn’t seem like they were against piracy per se, they just wanted to avoid potential liability. That said, I’ve still moved on to another instance.
This 100%
I don’t know why people are making this dramatic, this was absolutely a functional and pragmatic decision.
Hi Lemm.ee. Bye lemmy.world.
The guy who started this whole thing by asking lemmy.world admins to defederate with lemmy.dbzer0.com is a lemm.ee account and he has asked lemm.ee to take similar action
Doesn’t matter who started it, all that matters is how the admins handle it. If all it takes is a new user asking for a community or instance to be blocked/de-federated and it just happens no questions asked, the admin in charge are to blame, not the person for asking.
Lemmy.world overtook beehaw and .ml because they promised to not go bonkers with power tripping defederation. Now they’re beehaw but with far more power over lemmy. Fuck that instance.
Suggestion: account on small instance, communities on large ones
Why communities on large ones, doesn’t that achieve centralization of the content?
Well, not if the communities are distributed across several large instances, no?
Small istances don’t have the resources to host large communities
I was on Lemmy World too, but lately they’ve started to restrict more and more. Restricting access to piracy was my limit
If I was on that instance and subscribed to this community, I wouldn’t see these posts any more? If I wasn’t paying attention would I even know it was gone?
I think you would stop seeing new posts.
Was there some context or discussion about that over there? If I recall correctly, lemmy.world is hosted in Germany, right? The lawyers there are quite extreme when it comes to cracking down on piracy; is a whole business model… So maybe .world is just overly cautious
Fucking Germany. Like I get having the laws, but they are being abused for absolute nonsense.
I’m on a german instance (feddit.de) and it’s federated with db0.
I think it’s just lemmy.world bullshit.
Has anyone read their post about their downtime?
“We shouldn’t close registration or limit the amount of communities because we’re not even the biggest instance in the fediverse”
Like, what?! The argument was always that they are the biggest in Lemmy! It felt like they were trying to gaslight the users.
Same as the other arguments, like new users being weirded out if they can’t register to lemmy.world or apps using them as default. So them being down all the time doesn’t matter? Or that lemmy.ml was the biggest instance and closed down registration and new users registered to other instances without a problem?
I’m really weirded out how hard they try to be the “main” thing on Lemmy.
Almost like an “intentional and kinda aggressive lib takeover”. I wouldn’t put it past the admins to try monetizing their users at some point.
Just released an announcement, see the pic in the post.
that announcement is also a buch of horsecrap
A transphobic troll got spanked and then retaliated with that post and the .world admins were stupid enough to blindly follow the directions of an alt-right turd.
Just saying.
Not just transphobic but racist as well and going by the posted pebbleyeet memes probably also fascist. Sad that the lemmy.world admins took the bait especially after dealing with constant ddos themselves for kicking off their own trolls
Source for this person being transphobic? I’m not saying you’re wrong, I just don’t know where this is coming from…
About 5 shitty memes that are now deleted, that’s what this post is in response to in the first place.
They also censor the word “bitch”. Not a good look.
What??
Lemmy.world is dogshit. It feels like a nanny instance or like a reddit 2.0. Idk why people keep joining that bullshit instead of spreading out.
I’m so happy that I joined a small instance that hasn’t defederated or been defederated from anyone
Go be a shepherd and encourage people to move elsewhere
Well it got me to move, so something is working.
Me too. I just found hexbear.net. Much better.
What’s hexbear?
Not much, what’s hex with you? 🤣
I think it is an instance full of evangelical leftists?
No thank you
Gross and they replied to my comment. I need a shower now.
No evangelism of any kind–rather dirtbag leftism. Chapo Trap House is defined on Wikipedia. They’ve been around for a while. They’ve got podcasts. They write books. They’re smart, well-informed, and take no prisoners. They’re also comradely toward honest, curious newcomers. If one were, say, proudly liberal and sure in their understanding of history and politics, it probably wouldn’t be a good fit.
Chapo Trap House lemmy.
