It is unclear whether the latest death toll includes either of the gunmen, with police earlier saying one had been killed and the other was in critical condition.
Fun with live news threads, headline has changed at least 4 times now…
Israel instantly blaming it on australia. Wonder if israel is involved.
“the blood of the murdered is on the hands of the Australian government, which announced recognition of a ‘Palestinian’ state and gave legitimacy to terrorism against Jews.”
Israel is the nr1 cause of antisemitism around the world. But sure play the victim again.
They also knew of the october 7th attacks and used it as an excuse to wipe out a country. So sorry if I am a little suspicious. They probably aren’t directly involved but are definitely the cause.
Why are Israel like this man. Like someone kills a load of people who either have connections to Israel or follow the same faith, a heinous and abhorrent act against innocent people.
Yet Israel has to come out and mention Palestine and blame Australia seemingly based on no evidence whatsoever.
If one’s things certain we can’t know who did this right now. The right have hated Israel and Jews for as far as I can remember and the left is pissed off at Israel and some will conflate Israel with Jews.
As an avid supporter of Palestine and critic and Israel I want to say that not all Jews are responsible for the acts of its government just as not all Palestinians are supporters of Hamas.
Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted, but it should be obvious to anyone that the terrorist state of Israel will never accept any blame for painting targets on all the Jews around the world, because that would also be admitting to all the atrocities they carried out.
I suspect lemmy was invaded by Israeli bots to try and control all the antisemitism.
I think it’s more people don’t like the implication without any evidence that Israel is involved beyond fostering the conditions that have fanned the flames of global antisemitism.
These two should have conducted their murders in a civilized way, like bombing people as they lay helpless in a hospital bed, or standing in line for food at a designated aid site.
Or, by blockading shipments of food so they just starve to death.
Israel is committing a genocide, and they claim to do it in the name of all Jews.
I have no idea what actually motivated these deplorable mass murderers in Australia, but the possible connection to Israel is an obvious hypothesis. Discounting this hypothesis without evidence only shows your bias.
I’ve reread it and I’ve come to the same conclusion: You are discounting the hypothesis that this mass murder was triggered by Israel’s ongoing genocide.
A mass murder of innocent Australians at the beach, on the other side of the globe. All because Israel is annihilating a terrorist organization that invaded their borders two years ago in order to rape and murder hundreds of civilians.
“This is not a normal war. The war in Ukraine has killed 500 kids in two years and the war in Gaza has killed over 10,000 in less than five months. We have seen wars before but this is something that is a dark stain on our shared humanity.”
The difference being that the Russian army doesn’t hide in and amongst their civilian population. Hamas does and has built their infrastructure under the whole bloody Gaza strip.
Hamas brought this upon their population through their past and present actions.
I’m no apologist, just a normal Israeli that knows what’s really going on less than 20km from my home and hasn’t been totally brainwashed by the media.
Bro - people hated Jews 3 years ago. Source: antisemitic slurs from the person trying to kill me. I never say this shit but touch some grass or get into therapy.
Isreal’s genocide has dramatically changed opinions. I was always for Isreal; we American’s love an underdog! Yeah, no longer. Now I say that Israel has forfeited their right to exist.
Now imagine all the people who hate Jews as an extension of Israeli policy. Fuck me, people hated the man who played Joffrey on Game of Thrones and Rose from Star Wars! It’s less of a jump for such people to say, Israel evil -> Jews evil.
Israel instantly blaming it on australia. Wonder if israel is involved.
“the blood of the murdered is on the hands of the Australian government, which announced recognition of a ‘Palestinian’ state and gave legitimacy to terrorism against Jews.”
Israel is the nr1 cause of antisemitism around the world. But sure play the victim again. They also knew of the october 7th attacks and used it as an excuse to wipe out a country. So sorry if I am a little suspicious. They probably aren’t directly involved but are definitely the cause.
Why are Israel like this man. Like someone kills a load of people who either have connections to Israel or follow the same faith, a heinous and abhorrent act against innocent people.
Yet Israel has to come out and mention Palestine and blame Australia seemingly based on no evidence whatsoever.
If one’s things certain we can’t know who did this right now. The right have hated Israel and Jews for as far as I can remember and the left is pissed off at Israel and some will conflate Israel with Jews.
As an avid supporter of Palestine and critic and Israel I want to say that not all Jews are responsible for the acts of its government just as not all Palestinians are supporters of Hamas.
Zionism is literally all about driving a wedge between communities.
Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted, but it should be obvious to anyone that the terrorist state of Israel will never accept any blame for painting targets on all the Jews around the world, because that would also be admitting to all the atrocities they carried out.
I suspect lemmy was invaded by Israeli bots to try and control all the antisemitism.
I think it’s more people don’t like the implication without any evidence that Israel is involved beyond fostering the conditions that have fanned the flames of global antisemitism.
Then they’re involved anyway.
Fuck Israeli pigs.
Ahh there is that Antisemitism
I posted an unfounded comment in an untimely manner. It’s about the victims and I turned it political. I just posted it on an impulse.
If there’s a way to handle things incorrectly, Israel will find it.
Over 10 people were just murdered. Let’s go flame on Israel a bit because why the fuck not? Fucking idiot.
You mean the same Israel that blames the Australian government? That Israel?
Yep, Israel is the real victim here. Go fuck yourself
You’re right.
These two should have conducted their murders in a civilized way, like bombing people as they lay helpless in a hospital bed, or standing in line for food at a designated aid site.
Or, by blockading shipments of food so they just starve to death.
That’s the civilized, Israeli way to do murder.
Israel is committing a genocide, and they claim to do it in the name of all Jews.
I have no idea what actually motivated these deplorable mass murderers in Australia, but the possible connection to Israel is an obvious hypothesis. Discounting this hypothesis without evidence only shows your bias.
Take a good look at the comment above mine. Now read my comment again. Who discounted what?
I’ve reread it and I’ve come to the same conclusion: You are discounting the hypothesis that this mass murder was triggered by Israel’s ongoing genocide.
A mass murder of innocent Australians at the beach, on the other side of the globe. All because Israel is annihilating a terrorist organization that invaded their borders two years ago in order to rape and murder hundreds of civilians.
Yeah… Fuck those guys.
If Israel were only targeting a terrorist org, nobody would have a problem.
Kids aren’t terrorists.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/02/gaza-palestinian-children-killed-idf-israel-war
“This is not a normal war. The war in Ukraine has killed 500 kids in two years and the war in Gaza has killed over 10,000 in less than five months. We have seen wars before but this is something that is a dark stain on our shared humanity.”
The difference being that the Russian army doesn’t hide in and amongst their civilian population. Hamas does and has built their infrastructure under the whole bloody Gaza strip.
Hamas brought this upon their population through their past and present actions.
Oh, you’re for real an Israel apologist. I for a second thought you might just be naive, but no, it’s much worse. You’re a genocide supporter.
I’m no apologist, just a normal Israeli that knows what’s really going on less than 20km from my home and hasn’t been totally brainwashed by the media.
A terrorist organisation and every other living thing in the area. So noble…
That’s what happens when the terror organization uses its population as human shields. So fucking noble.
Oh so you aren’t discounting the hypothesis… You are denying a genocide.
That’s much worse. :(
Israeli propaganda is a disease, please get well soon.
Bullshit. The number one cause of antisemitism is hateful assholes.
You are showing the abuser mentality by saying it’s someone else’s fault that abuse happens.
Stop rationalizing hatred. You’re part of the problem.
Bro - people hated Jews 3 years ago. Source: antisemitic slurs from the person trying to kill me. I never say this shit but touch some grass or get into therapy.
Isreal’s genocide has dramatically changed opinions. I was always for Isreal; we American’s love an underdog! Yeah, no longer. Now I say that Israel has forfeited their right to exist.
Now imagine all the people who hate Jews as an extension of Israeli policy. Fuck me, people hated the man who played Joffrey on Game of Thrones and Rose from Star Wars! It’s less of a jump for such people to say, Israel evil -> Jews evil.
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Well that settles it then.