cross-posted from: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/49224731
China’s ambassador to Australia has urged Canberra to prepare for dealing with a “reunified China”, declaring Chinese people “will not forgive” countries that seek to obstruct Beijing’s push to bring Taiwan under its control.
In remarks that frame reunification as inevitable and resistance as unforgivable, Xiao Qian likened Taiwan’s status to that of Tasmania and warned that any attempt of “compromising or openly distorting” Beijing’s one-China principle would constitute a retreat from prior commitments and erode trust.
He said Australia could not keep reaping the benefits of trade with China while seeking to block reunification, signalling economic consequences for resisting Beijing’s aims.
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Mr Xiao also lashed a recent [Australian] Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade statement that described China’s military and coast guard drills around Taiwan as “deeply concerning, destabilising and risk inflaming regional tensions”, and reiterated that Canberra opposed any unilateral attempt to change the status quo.
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He also cautioned governments, including Australia’s, against pursuing dialogue on Taiwan unless they were committed to reunification.
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Strange that only 2 sources (from a quick internet search) are reporting this in the last 2 weeks. The Australian, and Skynews, both Murdoch media masks
Thank you Trump, for normalizing imperialist bullshit behavior. Not that China needed much of a heads up, but they’ll surely love it.
Some thing about saber rattling toward Australia is utterly sublime.
How so?
Sorry, sabre rattling? I don’t see anything in the language here that indicates China is threatening war with Australia. It’s Australia saying “we should form a military alliance and use it to violently oppose China and Taiwan unifying their governmental and national defense structures” and China saying that even suggesting such a thing will put Australia - the white supremacist settler colony that is an extension of white supremacist British colonialism, the largest empire in the history of the world - on the diplomatic shit list of China, which will mean lack of cooperation, reduced trade, etc.
Implying that China is aiming for a peaceful and equotable reunification with Taiwan, is like saying that Putin had to invade Ukraine because they wouldn’t do what he told them to do, or that the Americans have to invade Greenland for their own protection.
If you say so. Meanwhile China has been talking about peaceful reunification for 50 years and haven’t dropped a bomb in over 30 years.
So I wouldn’t compare them to Russia, they are much much much more committed to peace than Russia. In fact, they’re more committed to peace than the US, UK, France, NATO, India, etc. Of all the nations in the world, China is easily used one of the most peaceful.
I don’t see anything in the language here that indicates China is threatening war with Australia.
It is the same bullying we have been hearing from Chinese officials over many years now. Chinese envoys have already threatened Australian and Japanese people over its support for Taiwan as well as the current Japanese PM personally.
Chinese imperialism has a long-standing history across a wide range of territories and issues, comprising Beijing’s territorial claims in the South China Sea, and the persecution of Uyghurs and suppression of Tibet and Inner Mongolia. Officially there are 55 ethnic minorities in contemporary China - all people other than Han-Chinese - that speak more than 300 languages, and these cultures and languages are suppressed by a wide range of measures including included forced labor and factory work, suppression of Uyghur and Tibetan religious practices, political indoctrination, forced sterilization, forced contraception, forced abortion, mass arbitrary arrests and detention, torture, mass surveillance, family separation, sexual violence, to name a few.
China’s relations with Africa have also been accused of being neo-colonial, particularly the Belt and Road Initiative.
Oh my God listen to yourself for just a second, will ya. Do you know what oppression of ethnic groups looks like? It looks like public lynchings of Italians. It looks like building ghettos for the Jews. It looks like constantly crowing about immigrants. That’s the US, not China.
Do you know what oppressing occupied territories looks like? It looks like child separation policies. It looks like laws making languages illegal and assimilation mandatory. It looks like eugenics and forced sterilization programs. That’s the US, not China.
Do you know what bullying looks like? It looks like killing fisherman by bombing them with your military. It looks like blowing up medical buildings and cultural sites while kidnapping a head of state. It looks like collective punishment killing millions of people every single year. That’s the US, not China.
China’s bullying the SCS is placid not beligerent. That should be obvious. They have never double tapped a fishing vessel.
China’s “occupation” of Tibet is anything but. The Tibetan people have always been autonomous under Chinese protection since the days the Chinese liberated them from the Mongols. Their education system teaches in the Tibetan language. Their government operates in the Tibetan language. Their culture is openly expressed and celebrated constantly. In the US, indigenous children were being separated from their families and sent to assimilation schools where they were murdered, beaten, raped, and tortured and that was occuring in the 1980s! Child separation is still a US program but now it’s managed through child protective services and the adoption system. The US is the example of what oppression looks like and you won’t find any of that in China.
Xinjiang situation is even more damning. Terrorist attacks in Xinjiang were rising every year for at least a decade. You know what they US does when there are terrorist attacks, right? It bombs multiple countries and ignores white supremacist attacks on Muslim populations. You know what China did? It invested in infrastructure, education, and industry while launching an anti-terrorism campaign that balanced fighting US-backed proxies with reintegrating terrorists into society. Representatives from over 20 countries have been on the ground observing the program. The results are very clear. The terrorist attacks have been almost eliminated, while the cultural expression of the peoples of Xinjiang remains vibrant. The region has been autonomous for decades. Like Tibet, it ran its government in its own language. It organized its society around its own historical practices. It was never subject to child separation, eugenics, or assimilation.
What you are describing as Chinese oppression is a projection of Western settler colonialism onto the Chinese reality. It is an illusion. Take for example your last sentence. The BRI has been accused of being neo-colonialism. That’s true, it has been accused of that. By whom though? Predominantly Western accusers and those aligned with the West. There are breaks in the ranks though. The Atlantic has a great essay explaining that the idea of the Chinese debt trap is a total fabrication. The Atlantic is a known imperial rag, and even it ran this article.
So yes, China has been accused of neocolonialism by neocolonialists. But it’s not doing neocolonialism in Africa.
As for the long history of Chinese imperialism dating back over 2000 years, I don’t think anyone could argue with that. Taiwan is a settler colony of the Han Chinese. The indigenous people of the island, however, are not the people being supported by the West. I doubt most Westerners who support Taiwan independence even know that there is an indigenous nation on the island separate from the Han.
But the reality is that under the CPC, China has not dropped a bomb in over 30 years. It has maintained and defended the autonomy of its protectorate. And it has been an active force of anti-imperialism and is one of the primary anchors of anti-imperialism today. There is only one empire ruling the globe right now. They have 600 military bases around the world. They have military fleets on every continent. They bomb weddings, funerals, medical facilities, and they have proxy programs that do this for them. They spend millions on individual propaganda campaigns like the anti-vax campaign in Asia aimed at making people afraid of China’s COVID vaccine. Their sanctions regime has killed over 40 million people globally. They have destroyed a dozen countries, developed large networks of drug production and distribution that kill millions every year. There is but one empire, and it is the US at the helm, with the rest of white supremacist Europe and the former and current colonies as junior partners.
We can worry about unwinding the contradictions of millenia of Han imperialism when the empire is defanged.
You forgot to thank the imperialists for the technological structure you’ve just used to spread the tankiest shit I’ve seen perhaps ever.
Thank you imperialists for bringing me this phone that spies on me and sells my data for profit at the expense of my privacy for the low low cost of genociding 100 M indigenous people in just the Americas, and 100s of millions across the rest of the world and for destroying our environment and for inventing the ice pick lobotomy so men could have permanently docile wives without ugly surgery scars and for kidnapping and enslaving millions of Africans and brutally separating them from their own historical identity to the point where their ancestors literally have no idea where they originally came from and for creating global trauma over 600 years for 80% of the world’s population.
It was worth it. I am so glad I can post on the Internet. Thanks to everyone for their sacrifices!
The fuck? You’re blowjobbing China and not using a Chnese phone or something cracked?
Are you a real, genuine revolutionary or just a dishlicker with a Che poster on the wall?
Such a fucking weak pivot.
Which is it? China stole all our IP and can’t actually develop anything themselves or China developed the technology to make all the phones in the world?
You chuds are all the same. No fucking intellectual honesty, homophobia when it’s in the service of jingoism, and just generalized bundles of pathologies and cognitive dissonance.
Go take a break from the Internet, sweaty.
So yes, China has been accused of neocolonialism by neocolonialists. But it’s not doing neocolonialism in Africa.
Yes it is. That’s exactly what the belt and road initiative is … to bring impoverished nations into the fold by lending them money they’ll never be able to repay.
Western nations should have jumped in, but we didn’t. That still doesn’t excuse China’s manipulative, colonialist behaviour.
Read the article from The Atlantic. You are incorrect. Chinese debt forgiveness is massive, in the tens of billions.
Oh my God listen to yourself for just a second, will ya.
That‘s not going to happen because it is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it. 3½ years of anti-China & anti-Russia news posts by several similar Lemmy accounts
Thank God you’re here! I was feeling really lonely trying beat off all these people with both hands.
But yeah, OP is pretty obviously ideologically commited to the project of spreading Western propaganda. Maybe they’re a paid professional, but I know plenty of people who think it’s their mission to stop China just because they’ve been so immersed in sinophobia/Yellow Peril for so long that they’ll do this shit for free. Same with Red Scare and Russophobia brain damage. Just zealots and patsies, carrying water for free.
Look at this nonsense you’re spewing. It’s clear that china is threatening Australia and any country who interferes with what they consider a domestic issue, but anyone who isn’t a sinofascist understands is two independent nations who should stay that way and work on improving the world; not killing people.
This isn’t a “china bad” or “sinophobia” issue. It’s a being a decent human issue.
beat off all these people with both hands.
Inside out.
You may still be on your own here, I’m afraid. I just wanted you to know what you’re up against. I think the mods of the communities that have been hosting these ideologically and/or financially-motivated power posters for years know what they’re doing. These aren’t fora for good-faith discussions. For instance, the reason I noticed this conversation at all is because someone is filing false reports that your comments are “Spam or Abuse” and “Breaks Community Rules.”
Jesus
to violently oppose China and Taiwan unifying their governmental and national defense structures
You say that as though there’s any prospect of that happening by any means other than violent colonial oppression on the part of the PRC.
LOL. You are so funny. The presence of Han Chinese people on the island of Taiwan is the colonial oppression. The very people you are supporting in Taiwan are settler colonists from a colonial project that started 400 years ago. Do you even know the name of the indigenous people of the island? Do you know their name for the island? Fuck off with your ignorant sanctimonious projection.
Nice deflection. We’re not talking about what happened 400 years ago. We’re talking about what’s going on right now.
Yes, the pre-communist, pre-republic Chinese imperialism against the native Taiwanese population was bad. It doesn’t justify modern-day imperialism from the PRC, any more than poor treatment of the various central Vietnamese native populations would justify Chinese imperialism against Vietnam. Or indeed any more than Australia’s treatment of its Indigenous population would justify China deciding to invade Australia.
Your blatant whataboutism is not a defence of China here.
So you understand what colonialism is but still insist on calling Chinese/Taiwanese integration colonialism? Your intellectual honesty is clearly unimpeachable.
Taiwan is a sovereign nation you tankie shit. Move to russia or NK or china since you love it so much. The west doesn’t need more division from tankies, we got enough to deal with right now.
Dealing with the ignorance is exhausting. But it must be done.
No, Taiwan is not a sovereign nation, nor is it a sovereign country (yes there are differences). The government of Taiwan is a Chinese government. It has never declared itself a sovereign nation or country. It has always maintained that it is the legitimate government of the country of China. The country of China includes Taiwan as a province. The legitimate government of China would be sovereign over the country of China which would include Taiwan. Both the government on the island and the government on the mainland agree with this and have agreed about it continuously.
The only people who have ever claimed Taiwan is a sovereign country are Western civilians. Western governments haven’t even made that claim.
You should read more about this. It will be easier than arguing with someone you don’t respect.
Taiwan has been an independent country for over three quarters of a century. So yes, a forceful invasion of another country for the purposes of exploiting its resources and population would be colonialism.
No it hasn’t. For fucks sake read a book.
The island of Taiwan was a province of China starting 400 years ago. Imperial Japan attacked China and China lost. Japan demanded China give Taiwan Island to Japan as a condition of the war ending. When the nation of China expelled the Japanese during WW2, Taiwan reverted to its original centuries-long status as being a province of China.
During the civil war, two factions of the nation of a China fought, and one faction of the nation of China lost and fled to the Chinese province of Taiwan.
At no time did that faction of the nation of China declare independence, request independence, or describe itself as an independent nation. It continued to act on the world stage, with the support of over 100 other countries, as the government of the nation of China, which included the mainland.
Eventually, most countries in the world realized that the faction on Taiwan was not a legitimate national government and they recognized the CPC as the legitimate government of the country of China, of which Taiwan island was still a province and that status was never changed by literally anyone.
You know about Chinese settler colonialism on the island but you don’t know that Taiwan has never been an independent country? Talk about confirmation bias! Or maybe you know you’re being disingenuous and outright lying but don’t care so long as it opposes your ideological enemies?
China threatening anyone other than the US is indeed hilarious saber rattling.
Again, there’s no sabre rattling. China is not threatening military consequences. China is informing Australia of the diplomatic consequences
Saber doesn’t literally mean weapons dude. Trade war saber rattling is still saber rattling.
Orwellian newspeak bullshit. Trade is war! Tarrifs are violence! Diplomacy is murder!
Fuck off. Sabre rattling means threats of violence. Contemporary examples of this are Hegseth going to Asia and saying “We all need to prepare for war with China” or Australia saying “We need to build military alliances to fight China”. China saying “we will not forgive you if you oppose us” is not sabre rattling. At. All.
Holy crap what have you been sniffing, that must be some good shit
Australia was a penal colony for Irish rebellion during the 1700s. They are probably more Irish than English ancestry
So white supremacy vs Sinocentrism, goooot it
Could you help me find references that make this equivalency? Here’s what I’m looking for based on the behaviors of white supremacists.
Can you find evidence of the Chinese government just ignoring Chinese people holding public lynchings of minorities, making them into picnics and places to bring the kids?
Can you find evidence of forced sterilization programs and eugenics programs? Should be easy since white supremacists were running these programs well into the 80s and there are eugenics laws on the books in various states that weren’t released until very recently.
Can you find evidence of child separation policies aimed at destroying entire cultures? Again, should be easy. Indian boarding schools in white supremacist societies were operating well into the 80s.
Can you find evidence of dying languages in China? In white supremacist societies languages of oppressed people are made illegal and children who are stolen from their families are beaten, sometimes to death, for speaking their native language. Should be easy to find that in “sinocentrism” right?
How about popular Chinese groups of normal citizens arming themselves and openly stating they are sinocentric and they want to get rid of anyone who isn’t Chinese. In the US alone we have a bunch of these groups - Proud Boys, Boogaloo, neo-nazis, Groupers, Stormfront, etc. Should be easy to find stuff like that in sinocentric society like China, right?
Suffice to say, I find your false equivalency to be projection more than reality. White supremacy is a real and present danger to millions of people right now in your face on national TV every single day. There is no equivalent in China.
Just because you come from a failed state that is trying to max out on all the evil stats doesn’t mean that’s the bar for ethnic nationalism.
Decentre yourself a bit, you yank, and stop thinking about everything through either a US-centric Orientalisation lens.
Proclaiming that Taiwan must be annexed to “build the family across the Strait” “兩岸一家親” and that the only way national rejuvenation can be achieved is through annexation is ethno-nationalist and no different to the “Blood and Soil” concept the Nazis had. I’m hoping you can open your mind a second and realise I’m not talking about the “defence against the US” angle for annexing Taiwan, but specifically the extenisve use of ethnic links and family lingo to justify annexation.
I’m not even saying this as exaggeration, many Chinese are dumbfounded when they travel to Malaysia or Singapore and find that locals despise them for calling them “compatriots”. Dude is literally using 同胞, not like comrade, literally co-national.
Decentre yourself a bit, you yank, and stop thinking about everything through either a US-centric Orientalisation lens.
the only way national rejuvenation can be achieved is through annexation is ethno-nationalist and no different to the “Blood and Soil” concept the Nazis had.
Man. Talk about dissonance. Which is it? Are we comparing China to white supremacist fascists or are we decentering ourselves and considering the Chinese context for what it is.
The idea that healing from a civil war is ethno-nationalism akin to the Third Reich is completely and utterly ridiculous. The situation with Taiwan is not about nationalism, it’s about literally healing the wounds between families that were caught on opposite sides of a civil war. It’s about healing from the 40 year white terror on Taiwan committee by Chiang Kai-shek.
[I am talking about] specifically the extenisve use of ethnic links and family lingo to justify annexation.
So your issue is that the rhetoric is focusing on the shared aspects of the peoples as opposed to focusing on things like violence, dominion, divine right, might makes right, or some other form of justification? Like what are you even saying? You want to ignore the fact that China has legitimate security interests being threatened by the US operating Taiwan as a foreign base but you want to claim that peaceful reunification rhetoric focused on shared aspects of the people reminds you of the Nazi rhetoric that invented a new white race (Aryan) and a whole mystical system of ascendance and ranking that justified their enslavement, genociding, and occupation of the lesser races like the Slavs, Jews, and Romas?
Like, are you serious and just haven’t dealt with your cognitive dissonance or are you just being totally disingenuous and don’t think anyone can call you on it?
Families that were caught on opposite sides? You mean the ROC soldiers that occupied Taiwan after losing the Civil War? Yeah, there’s ample channels currently for that, I don’t shed tears for waishengren occupiers sorry.
Point is, you don’t have any skin in the game, you’re LARP-ing as a revolutionary because you’re pissed at the US currently. I get you, sorta. But I ain’t buying the “principled anti-imperialist” facade.
Yes, so you clearly don’t agree that the KMT had any material claim to being a legitimate government and the Japanese claim was an imperialist one. So undoing both of those leaves us with Taiwan being a province of China and China being under the governance of the CPC and the protection of the PLA. I am glad we agree.
You’re in England. You live in the old heart of the empire. You’re with the very people who subjugated China with gun boat diplomacy and spent the last 300 years, at least, producing anti-Chinese propaganda. I know you want to claim some form of supremacy that allows you to dismiss valid critique as revolutionary LARPing, but that’s not actually addressing anything other than your inability to formulate meaningful responses.
China is an imperialist empire. They are worthless trash.
No you are
In this context, where the Australia is literally a imperial colony of the largest empire in the history of the world that continues to openly oppress the indigenous people of an entire continent, your comment is hilarious.
Why would it be hilarious? In this case, China is the one threatening others to accept their imperialist ambitions. His comment was on point. Yours, on the other hand, reeks of bootlicking.
Because Australia is saying this:
'ey Bruce! After you’re done ova there with your daily oppression of your imperial subjects of centuries, I need ya ta come over here and help me build a military alliance that we can threaten Choina wit just in case they ever try to integrate the Choinese people on the island province of Taiwan with the Choinese people on the main land.
And China is saying this:
Hey Chinese people who live on the island province of Taiwan. Now that you’re 30 years into your experiment where you’re no longer run by a Chinese military dictatorship that killed everyone who disagree with them for 40 years, we’re going to continue, as we have for 50 years, pursue peaceful unification of our national defense systems and ensure y’all can keep running your Western style democratic system because honestly we don’t care how you govern yourselves as long as you don’t let violent imperialists like Australia and the US to build military power on the island. And Australia, if you continue to make plans to violently intervene, we will be very cross with you and will hold a grudge for quite some time.
Funny how you frame a military defence alliance as a threat to China, but decided to frame the intended invasion of Taiwan as a “peaceful unification”.
Also, remind me again what happened to their promise to allow Hong Kong to govern themselves without China interfering again? Yeah, nobody believes them on that front.
Anybody who lives around the South China Sea knows how untrustworthy China is when it comes to their imperialist ambition.
Hong Kong is still governing themselves. Their governmental system is still intact. It was not dismantled. You clearly just saw some violent protests and assumed you knew what was going on.
China’s one country two system approach is very explicit about one country meaning one military and one national security apparatus. The protests were about a national security law coming into effect that would give the CPC the legal framework to remove politicians that collaborated with Britain, the US, or other enemies of China.
And even though the student protestors fire bombed the police, the police were extremely restrained on the face of protestors literally burning people alive. The protests raged for weeks on end and the violence we saw on the news was almost entirely showing students throwing molotovs while the police retreated slowly. A far different sort of conflict than what we see in the US or England.
So, yes, the world absolutely believes China’s One Country Two Systems because it’s been doing it for literally centuries and because even in Hong Kong, where there was a violent student protest, the Hong Kong system of government is still operating in the same form it was operating when the British installed it.
It’s not governing themselves if the CPC decides who they collaborate with. And your argument about police bring restrained is similar to how Israel supporters try to gaslight everyone how Israel is acting restrained against terrorists.
It’s an obviously overused tactic now to paint the students as the bad actor when they have every right to decide how their country is supposed to be run, given that they are the future of their country. Anytime a government cracks down on student protest, it’s never the government that is in the right.
So no, the world, especially China’s neighbours, doesn’t believe that China will let Taiwan to govern themselves. They’d only allow a puppet government to be in power, like they’re doing in Hong Kong.
Well then you’re not free because your government decides who you can collaborate with. What silly absolutism.
And your argument about police bring restrained is similar to how Israel supporters try to gaslight everyone how Israel is acting restrained against terrorists
I mean, you could say that, but then you’d have to look up the numbers killed and then you’d be embarrassed for making such a comparison.
It’s an obviously overused tactic now to paint the students as the bad actor when they have every right to decide how their country is supposed to be run, given that they are the future of their country
This is an obviously shallow take. Hong Kong isn’t a country. It’s a part of China that the British carved off at gun point. Then they abused and oppressed the Chinese people there for decades. Then, when Thatcher realized that they were going to have to abide by the terms of the lease and actually give it back to China, it was the British that decided on the form of economy and the form of government. And they made deliberate choices to privilege a specific subset of the population that was amenable to being supported of British rule. Compradors, we call them. The British were the ones who came up with the concept of a Hong Kong identity, even, as a way of creating separation between Chinese people in Hong Kong and Chinese people in China.
And the students grew up in a system organized by the compradors, with Western style universities tied directly to Western financial interests (Hong Kong, after all, became a strong British financial hub) and the British were well positioned after occupying the region for a century to really stir the pot.
The student protest movement in Hong Kong was nearly universally shunned by the parents and particularly the grandparents of the students. The grandparents had really gone through the oppression of British rule and they rightly told those kids that they were being manipulated, even shutting them out of their homes for protesting.
But of course, liberals like you see everything in a vacuum. Those students were protesting because they were fully formed intellectual with all the context and not a single thing could have swayed them one way or another - they just know deep down that communist China is evil because they’re the future of their country of Hong Kong…
So no, the world, especially China’s neighbours, doesn’t believe that China will let Taiwan to govern themselves. They’d only allow a puppet government to be in power, like they’re doing in Hong Kong.
It’s just so sad that you know all these concepts, like puppet government, but you think history started right around the time you graduated high school.
The government in Hong Kong was a British puppet. If you do not understand that, you are either ignorant or willfully ignorant. China, through One Party Two Systems, clearly knows that the government of Hong Kong was British puppet government at the time of the lease ending and instead of doing anything about it allows that government to continue operating for a decade while China focused entirely integrating Hong Kong into national defense. Then China went spy hunting and by 2015 had effectively shutdown all the Western spy networks in China. And then, as they saw Hong Kong and Taiwan being manipulated by the West, they tightened national security so they could go after British puppets in Hong Kong and the students took their bodies to the streets and risked their lives for some fucking compradors. And China, understanding that this was the situation, let the protests rage for weeks and kept having the police back off despite the protestors getting seriously violent. And now it’s called down, and the British puppets are gone or in jail, and the Hong Kong system is still operating as an independent government system, but without British manipulation.
You really need to take the wider view here. It’s not one sided. Hong Kong is not operating in a vacuum as some group of Chinese people that hate communism. It’s literally a British colony, now former colony being manipulated by the British, who have been enemies of China for literally centuries. It will take many decades for Hong Kong to recover from the traumas of British rule. The student protests were a manifestation of that trauma. They had to happen. But they do not represent some sort of signal that China is a brutal evil dictatorship.
China: let me in to save you
Taiwan: save me from what?
China: from what I’m gonna do to you if you don’t let me in
Pretty much what “peaceful unification” means
White Euro centric westerns stop projecting challenge: impossible
MLs stop chaining random lingo with no substance to appear intelligent challenge: impossible
China hasn’t dropped a bomb in over 30 years.
It’s the USA that says “let me save you from what I will do to you if you don’t let me save you”.
The USA has destroyed a dozen countries in only the last 20 years. It is currently bombing multiple countries as we debate. China is doing nothing of the sort and has done nothing of the sort for decades.
You are projecting your own culture’s violent mobster-like behavior onto China in a way that is fundamentally divorced from reality.
In this context, where the Australia is literally a imperial colony of the largest empire in the history of the world
It’s a mixed situation after Federation. Historically, Australia (the state) was founded as a British colony, and we legally are still part of the Commonwealth under their king, and also the US has significant influence over Australia, but we’ve seen Australia has demonstrated its own capacity for imperialism in the region.
This doesn’t negate your point at all, it’s just something which is often forgotten.
Yes, all of the white supremacist colonies continued their white supremacist settler colonial dominance after independence. It’s almost like it has nothing to do with exactly who’s in charge but rather is a broad spectrum socio-historical phenomenon that requires more than just changing a flag or a leader
Yes, that’s completely true.
It does not in any way excuse China for its own current imperialism (e.g., Tibet, Xianjiang), or for its threats of further direct military conquests for the sake of expanding its empire (the subject of this article).
Tibet and Xinjiang are not the examples of Chinese imperialism.
I wish I could figure out a way to communicate the clear pattern here.
Tibet was party of One Country Two Systems centuries ago, before the phrase was even coined. The Mongols were the imperialists and they occupied a lot of China, and they occupied Tibet. When the Chinese reasserted their self-determination, they then liberated Tibet. And since Tibet literally could not defend itself against another Mongol invasion, the Chinese established a permanent military garrison to defend Tibet but did not dominate their people or run their government or colonize them.
Tibet declared independence in the early 1900s. Only a few countries recognized them. And they formed a theorcratic monarchy that enslaved 95% of their own people, tortured and killed them, and collaborated with Western imperialist powers. China then liberated the Tibetan people, again, this time from their own domestic oppresors. The free Tibet movement you remember did not originate from inside Tibet. It was an astroturfed campaign that emerged from the CIA collaboration with the exiled monarchy. The Dalai Lama’s brother wrote in his memoirs that he fully regrets working with the CIA because they harmed the Tibetan people instead of helping them. Specifically, we know that the CIA trained terrorists and air lifted them into Tibet to cause violent terror to create conditions for splitting Tibet from China. It killed people, failed to achieve the US’s violent imperialist aims.
Xinjiang has a long history of conflict with China dating back 2000 years. The current incarnation of the situation is a result of Qing imperialism occupying Xinjiang. China has not made moves to release Xinjiang, but what they have done is made them an autonomous region with self-governance. The US, yet again, decided to get involved in the East Turkistan independence movement and train terrorists to send into Xinjiang to destabilize the region. There was a constant growth in terrorist attacks in Xinjiang for years. China’s response has been nothing short of world historic. Their anti-terrorism program, which the West claimed as a genocide, greatly reduced terrorist attacks in Xinjiang. And the whole time they invited observers to the region and the consensus by on the ground observers has been that Xinjiang remains culturally and politically autonomous, celebratory of their religion, language, and historical culture, while simultaneously going through incredibly difficult and dangerous national security operations to bring terrorist attacks down.
Taiwan, too, is an imperial colony from the 1600s, when China occupied the indigenous population there. It still is that, but Westerners don’t talk about the indigenous people there. The indigenous people there are not asking from national recognition and total independence right now. They are a minority among the Han Chinese there. But China’s position regarding Taiwan primarily has to do with the fact that the US decided to make Taiwan an unsinkable aircraft carrier from which it can threaten China. China was more than happy to let history play itself out, knowing that time was on its side and that the Han Chinese on Taiwan would eventually reintegrate with the mainland. But the US turned the island into a protectorate and defended the fascist dictatorship that terrorized the island for 40 years straight and killed tens of thousands of people for the crime of wondering if maybe they should ally with their own people instead of the imperialist West. China still believes that the historical process will play out towards integration, but only if left alone. The US seems bent on continuing to escalate the violent threats with more and more weapon systems and troops. There are US troops stationed 4 miles from the coast of mainland China because those chain islands are part of the province of Taiwan. The US is the current imperial actor here and the dominant threat in the region. Once the US is removed, Taiwan will slowly choose to integrate with China, if only for purely economic reasons. Only after that process of resolving contradiction occurs can we begin to examine resolving the contradiction of Han imperialism over the indigenous people of Taiwan and resolve that contradiction.
Everywhere you look for Chinese imperialism in the modern era, you will see Chinese anti-imperialism against Western imperialism. It is a testament to Western propaganda that even though everyone knows the US is a violent psychotic belligerent that creates death and destruction wherever it goes, for whatever reason, Western propaganda is still capable of convincing us that actually China is the imperialist, when it hasn’t even dropped a single bomb for over 30 years!
Both is true, so is USA. Xi’s boot is already clean enough from their yesmen’s licking, you don’t have to join in.
Australia is literally a imperial colony of the largest empire in the history of the world
Your statement is wrong. Please read my brief comment in this thread. You’ll find more information about Chinese imperialism in Asia and across the world across the web.
It’s not from an approved propaganda source. The tankie won’t read it. They’re just maga for Communism… everything to them is fake news if it doesn’t feed into their views.
They are as much communists as maga are rational patriots. Auth-simps self isolating in a chosen echo chamber. Then when reality comes knocking, instead of wandering out to take a look like a well adjusted person. They run deeper into the closet.
Communists in the West read twice as much as you liberals. We had to to even become communists. We had to read everything you had to read in school. We were raised by liberal parents just like you were, and they read the same shit your parents did and passed it down to us. We have to read the same anglosphere internet content and mainstream news sources, we watch the same movies and TV shows you do.
And then we ALSO have to read everything else that contradicts it and dismantles it and argues against it. And then, because this is how intellectual honesty works, then we have to dig deeper into the anti-communist Western corpus in order to review the arguments against communism and find the arguments that directly attack the procommunist content we recently found. I dare say communists are likely to have read two or three things for every one thing you’ve read.
Just because you only consume propaganda from your dominant culture doesn’t mean that people who disagree with you are just consuming propaganda from some other culture. It’s not really possible for it to be that way anyway. It’s not like I went through 16 years of communist schooling, or spent 30 years watching communist news casts and working with fellow communists in the work place or hanging out with communist friends. I have been fully immersed in Western anti-communist, Russophobia, sinophobic, capitalist white supremacist patriarchy, just like you have been.
I just read different things and came to different conclusions than you did.
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West Taiwan speaking lol.
They wanna do without our tasty tasty beef, go nuts. They can have overpriced and underquality beef from the US that’s been rubbed under JFK Jr’s nutsack and carries who-knows-what kind of pestilence.
