• ☭SaltyIcetea☭@lemmy.ml
    5·
    2 hours ago

    Debian is great. but where is the fun in greatness? the jank is what makes computing enjoyable. wabi sabi or something like that.

    (i use arch btw.)

  • Vogi@piefed.socialEnglish
    2·
    4 hours ago

    Love me some Debian. But I still have to find a proper way to update only some packages to testing or unstable.

    Sway is still on 1.10 and has some problems with Godot for example.

  • FreddiesLantern@leminal.space
    6·
    7 hours ago

    Installed Debian last night hoping to try out the freedombox thing. Haven’t had much time with it but so far I’m very pleased. Runs smooth as silk on an old laptop. It also feels very clean and straightforward.

    I might ditch MX for vanilla Debian down the line. (Extra points for them disabling data collection by default and having it as a choice)

    • mirshafie@europe.pub
      5·
      7 hours ago

      There’s a reason why Debian is so popular as a base for other distros. It’s just no-nonsense, does what it’s supposed to do, never expects praise just for doing its damn job.

  • invictvs@lemmy.world
    7·
    9 hours ago

    I switched from Mint to Debian recently and it’s been great so far. I’m still getting used to the idea of no “panel” (tasks bar), but I think I will keep it that way since it looks cleaner. I find it really easy to navigate with just keyboard shortcuts. It does really feel universal.

    Only issue that keeps bugging me is that for some reason the sound quality on any Bluetooth device is trash. €100 headset sounds like a €10 one. An issue I didn’t have with Mint, Ubuntu or Windows. I haven’t had time to investigate it yet though, maybe something is missing in the default installation and is just a matter of installing the right package.

    • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      1·
      2 hours ago

      I’m still getting used to the idea of no “panel” (tasks bar),

      I’m using Debian/Plasma and I have a task bar. Maybe it’s optional or depends on environment?

      Now you’re making me think I should get rid of my task bar…

      • invictvs@lemmy.world
        2·
        8 hours ago

        Yeah, I know, but as I said I kind of like it and I think I can get used to it. It’s not necessarily something wrong with Debian, it’s just that I have been a long time windows user, and then used mint also for a long time, so this is just a habit.

    • NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de
      4·
      8 hours ago

      I never actually had to deal with Bluetooth issues on Linux so take this with a grain of salt.

      BT audio devices generally support multiple different encodings, for example aptX, but they can always fall back to the most basic and most horrible codec that is universally supported on any BT host device. Sounds like that’s what’s happening. So you might want to look into why your PC isn’t using the better options.

      • invictvs@lemmy.world
        5·
        8 hours ago

        Yes, I thought it might be a code issue. It just seemed weird that with other Debian based distros (ubuntu and mint) I have never had this issue. I hope this weekend I get enough free time to investigate further. Thank you for the tip.

        • NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de
          4·
          7 hours ago

          Maybe the necessary codecs just aren’t installed in Debian by default? Mint and Ubuntu are targeted at laptops for general use, so it makes sense they’d bundle all Bluetooth codecs in a default installation to be ready for most users. But Debian makes fewer assumptions like that, and is often used for servers, so perhaps they didn’t want to bloat it with codecs that many installations will never need.

          I’m just guessing here, but that makes sense to me.

      • invictvs@lemmy.world
        2·
        8 hours ago

        Thank you for the suggestion, it might be this. I haven’t had a lot of free time lately, but I hope this weekend I can sit down and investigate.

  • 9point6@lemmy.world
    68·
    21 hours ago

    All my personal servers/sbcs run Debian

    I do enough DevOps at work, I don’t need my free time to be a job too

    • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
      15·
      28 minutes ago

      The NixOS, it callllssss usssssss

      come in they ssssaid, itssss delcarativvvveee they ssssssaid.

      Wait i just put an environment variable in conifguration.nix and moved home manager back out of my home folder to a central spot why does sddm take 5 minutes to give me Wayland now?

      edit: OMG 6 hours later and I have it working. I have a configuration.nix that i re-grew with my 2025 backup and a configuration.nix.slow that is still broken if i switch it out. SDDM timeouts all over the place

      the diff between them give 0 indication why sddm would fail.

      I kinda want to go back through line by line and find out what did it, but I kinda also want to sleep, eat and go to work in a few hours :)

      edit: edit: no rest for the wicked. I ran it through Meld, and there was very little there. Best I can tell, my home manager was synlinked to the wrong config in the store. I’m running it modular, so the nixos-rebuild “should” have moved its configs. The defunct home manager somehow broke QT6 and I lost my file/edit menus in qt apps, the fix for that was a template override env var in configuration.nix. When i fixed the borked home symlink, that failure stopped being a failure and the QT override somehow gave SDDM heartburn. I hadn’t seen it because I rarely change home manager, and whatever was wrong sat that way since 25.11.

      Removing the line for QT to ignore the template stopped SDDM/Portal from loading and crashing for 5 minutes straight.

  • Cora@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10·
    17 hours ago

    I started with Ubuntu 8.10 on Gnome 2, and switched to Debian 8 after Snaps were introduced in Ubuntu 16.04.

    I still use Gnome with a very Gnome 2-esque layout. AND default Adwaita. What can I say, it’s digital home for me. Almost every app I use is Flatpak, so it’s always fresh.

    • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.caOP
      60·
      22 hours ago

      Do you want to live the boring stable life, where you can just build and build and build your personal poop castle on top of that solid OS for years and years? If yes, switch to Debian. You won’t be reinstalling till you get so bored that you get the urge to self-harm (by reinstalling). We can’t afford new hardware anyways, but even if we do, the same install will work on the new system with few tweaks. 😆

      The initial setup is a bit more annoying than Pop/Mint/Ubuntu but not too much more. Upgrades are also a bit more annoying but not too much more. There’s good documentation for both of those procedures.

    • Adeptus_Obsoletus@piefed.socialEnglish
      21·
      22 hours ago

      It’s just the matter of defaults, especially since Mint has Debian edition too. Personally I just cut off the “middleman” and go straight to Debian. Unless you really like Cinnamon, because you’ll obviously have better experience on Mint with it.

    • BurntWits@sh.itjust.works
      4·
      20 hours ago

      I’ve got two computers. My gaming pc is running CachyOS, and my other computer which is basically for messing around with and watching movies, used to be running Mint, but I just today switched over to Debian with XFCE as the DE and I’m liking it so far. Super bare bones but that’s what I wanted for this computer anyway so it works great for me.

    • The Picard Maneuver@piefed.worldEnglish
      5·
      22 hours ago

      I just did this as a complete noob. Well, PopOS is still on my gaming rig, but my secondary PC is now Debian.

      I expected it to be way more barebones, but it turns out that my experience has been like 90% identical.

    • gigachad@piefed.socialEnglish
      5·
      22 hours ago

      I run Mint with Cinnamon on my Desktop PC and Debian with Gnome on a mini PC. I use the latter as a server and disabled the GUI, but Gnome was hard to get used to. I use my PC for casual gaming, browsing, and casual Python development. I am not a Linux power user but pretty familiar with the terminal. Setting up native Python without relying on UV/conda on Debian was a nightmare, but I guess that’s an edge case. I really love Linux Mint, and I also really like Cinnamon.

      • Ephera@lemmy.mlEnglish
        1·
        12 hours ago

        Python without UV/Conda is always somewhat of a pain on Linux, well, if you need a specific version that is. It comes pre-installed on virtually all distros, because the distros use it themselves to script stuff in the OS. That also means, if you install a different Python version OS-wide, you can break those OS scripts.

        Admittedly, it is somewhat of a larger pain on Debian, though, because it will stay behind on older Python versions for longer than most other distros. After the Python 2→3 transition, they also continued to alias python to python2 for quite some years (I’m actually not sure, if they alias to python3 by now)…

      • dan@upvote.au
        8·
        22 hours ago

        If you’re used to Windows then maybe give KDE a shot. Similar concepts to Windows (like a taskbar at the bottom of the screen) but extremely customizable. You can install KDE on Debian - on an existing system, the easiest way is to run tasksel and select KDE Plasma.

        • dalekcaan@feddit.nl
          3·
          21 hours ago

          I’m fairly new to Linux and I’ve been using Kubuntu, and so far I really like KDE coming from a lifetime of using Windows.

        • gigachad@piefed.socialEnglish
          2·
          22 hours ago

          I disabled the graphical interface as I use the mini PC with Debian as a server and only ssh to it. I used Ubuntu with gnome at work for a couple of years (I could ignore it back then with the Ubuntu theme, which I liked more)

          Never tried out KDE, I know it is very popular. But I am super happy with Cinnamon and I don’t see a reason to switch on my main PC. Of course I grew up with Windows, that may explain why I get along with Cinnamon so well…

          • Ephera@lemmy.mlEnglish
            1·
            12 hours ago

            Yeah, I mean Cinnamon matches what Windows does really quite closely, down to even the default keyboard shortcuts being virtually the same.

            KDE doesn’t match it quite as closely, but it’s just power-user heaven…

          • dan@upvote.au
            1·
            15 hours ago

            I disabled the graphical interface as I use the mini PC with Debian as a server and only ssh to it

            Oh yeah, that makes sense.

    • hushable@lemmy.world
      2·
      20 hours ago

      I’ve been long time Debian fan, I use it on all my servers and my laptop, however on my gaming rig I had PopOS and recently switched to PikaOS which is based on Debian and I’m absolutely loving it

  • Carrot@lemmy.today
    12·
    19 hours ago

    I use arch (btw) on my personal machine because I hate myself, but on my servers and the computers of people I move off of Windows I always install Debian and KDE/Gnome, for simplicity and stability.

    • tempest@lemmy.ca
      10·
      18 hours ago

      For all the fear mongering about rolling release distros I’ve only been burned once like 5 years ago by some Nvidia driver bug.

      I still do the same thing though.

      • Pika@rekabu.ru
        2·
        11 hours ago

        Arch and derivatives always act weird on my system when the time comes to move files.

        I never figured out the root cause, but after like two months of use when I move or download files, the system lags extremely bad and hogs all the RAM.

        Works just fine on any other distros.

      • Hule@lemmy.world
        2·
        11 hours ago

        I had a few months where every update broke my WiFi.

        A second reboot always fixed it, i never found out the cause.