Kim Ju Ae: North Korea leader Kim Jong Un chooses daughter as heir, Seoul says
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South Korea's spy agency says Ki Ju Ae's prominent public presence indicates she is the chosen heir.

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un has selected his daughter as his heir, South Korea’s spy agency told lawmakers on Thursday.

Kim Ju Ae - who is believed to be 13 - has in recent months been pictured beside her father in high-profile events like a visit to Beijing in September, her first known trip abroad.

The National Intelligence Service (NIS) said it took a “range of circumstances” into account including her increasingly prominent public presence at official events" in making this assessment.

  • Riverside@reddthat.comEnglish
    211·
    1 day ago

    What we have is he is the single most powerful person in North Korea

    I don’t doubt this, but you could have said the same about Queen Elizabeth before she got in a box

    that rule and guide the country

    This requires more evidence. What’s your evidence for this? What material reasons do you have to believe that the decisions come from Kim personally and not from the communist party?

    • njm1314@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      24 hours ago

      I absolutely would not have described Queen Elizabeth as the most powerful person in the country at any time of her reign.

      • 0x0@lemmy.zipEnglish
        11·
        7 hours ago

        The Queen/King is quite literally above the law in the UK. So yes.
        Influential? Yes. The current clown not so much.

        • njm1314@lemmy.worldEnglish
          9·
          16 hours ago

          I’m going to invite you to go ahead and rephrase that in a way that is not completely nonsensical. Cuz I don’t know what the fuck you’re trying to say there or what it had to do with anything I said.

    • psx_crab@lemmy.zipEnglish
      9·
      1 day ago

      I don’t doubt this, but you could have said the same about Queen Elizabeth before she got in a box

      I can also say the same for all prime minister and president in country without monarch and with constitutional monarch. That is exactly what a leader of the country are. What is exactly your point here?

      This requires more evidence. What’s your evidence for this? What material reasons do you have to believe that the decisions come from Kim personally and not from the communist party?

      Let me do one better: what is your evidence that say otherwise?

      • Riverside@reddthat.comEnglish
        38·
        1 day ago

        Let me do one better: what is your evidence that say otherwise?

        A society whose results don’t match those of a personal monarchic dictatorship. For example, Saudi Arabia, a widely known example of a monarchy with absolutist power, has 80% of the population composed of immigrants without rights who get stripped of their passports and get treated as slaves. There’s no public healthcare, no infrastructure for poor people (trains, public schools, people-centered urbanism…), etc.

        In the DPRK, there’s widespread public transit infrastructure with trains and trams, public education for everyone, public healthcare, good workers’ rights relative to their level of development, people-centered urban planning, collectivized agriculture… You wouldn’t expect any of these things from an absolutist monarchy.

        • psx_crab@lemmy.zipEnglish
          41·
          19 hours ago

          I would love to have source for your claim on north korea, because your claim on saudi arabia is all but nonsense, and is really easily dispelled with a little bit of internet search.

          And across the history, some king are known to have build a lot of public infrastructure, while others don’t. That isn’t a sign of governance type, that is the sign of the competence of the leadership.

          • Riverside@reddthat.comEnglish
            11·
            11 hours ago

            About Saudi Arabia:

            The kafala system or kefala system (Arabic: نظام الكفالة niẓām al-kafāla, lit. ‘sponsorship system’) is a system in the Middle East that involves binding the residency and employment status of a migrant worker to a specific employer throughout the period of their residence in a country. Under this arrangement, the employer holds substantial authority over the worker, including the ability to approve or deny job changes, and permission to leave the country. This dependency creates a significant power imbalance that heightens the risk of exploitation and abusive practices.

            Demographics in Saudi Arabia:

            However, 38.3% of the residents (or about 13.3 million people) are non-citizens,[8] and many of them are migrant workers.

            When 40%ish of the population is without basic human rights, idk what you’re claiming false about my arguments

            Regarding sources for North Korea, the YouTube channel “DPRK Explained” does a great job of showing the realities of North Korea. You should have a look if you’re interested.

            • psx_crab@lemmy.zipEnglish
              2·
              9 hours ago

              You:

              For example, Saudi Arabia, a widely known example of a monarchy with absolutist power, has 80% of the population composed of immigrants without rights who get stripped of their passports and get treated as slaves.

              Also you:

              When 40%ish of the population is without basic human rights

              Wanna try again?

              Then you:

              There’s no public healthcare

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Saudi_Arabia

              Health care in Saudi Arabia is a national health care system in which the government provides free universal healthcare coverage through a number of government agencies.

              Then you also:

              no infrastructure for poor people (trains, public schools, people-centered urbanism…), etc.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Saudi_Arabia

              Public education in Saudi Arabia—from primary education through college—is open to every Saudi citizen. Education is the second-largest sector of government spending in Saudi Arabia.[7] Saudi Arabia spends 8.8% of its gross domestic product on education, which is nearly double the global average of 4.6%.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Mashaaer_Al_Mugaddassah_Metro_line

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riyadh_Metro

              There are several other line being planned.

              • Riverside@reddthat.comEnglish
                1·
                4 hours ago

                The 80% figure I mistook for the one of Qatar originally, which has a similar system but 88% of their population are immigrants without rights.

                Every service you pointed out leaves immigrants without access, 40% of Saudi population not having access to healthcare is exactly my point. Wikipedia explicitly says this healthcare is for citizens, and when 40% are non citizens, it’s a de-facto apartheid state with half the population being immensely exploited

                Why are you running defense for authoritarian monarchies in the Middle East?

            • lad@programming.devEnglish
              2·
              10 hours ago

              I thought it was 80% migrants? Also, except for the bit about permission to leave country (crazy, imo) that sounds like a normal work permit in many conventionally democratic countries, where employer also uses it’s power over migrant workers. It might be worse in practice, of course, that depends on courts

              • Riverside@reddthat.comEnglish
                1·
                4 hours ago

                Sorry, mistook it originally for the Qatar figure, which has a similar system and 88% migrant population.

                Also, except for the bit about permission to leave country (crazy, imo) that sounds like a normal work permit in many conventionally democratic countries, where employer also uses it’s power over migrant workers

                When immigrant workers aren’t given access to basic rights like healthcare, it’s an apartheid state. You could read about it instead of speculating about the extreme levels of exploitation of those poor people.

                • lad@programming.devEnglish
                  1·
                  3 hours ago

                  My point was more along the lines of specific democracies doing almost as bad, and being a counterexample for extracting political system information from unrelated data