A woman His daughter.
But that’s murder! If there’s one crime I thought could always rely on to be punished, it’s murder
But that’s murder!
Guy was showing off his Glock during a family get together and the gun discharged because he didn’t know how to handle it properly.
GJ chose not to indict on the charges the DA tried to bring.
Yep. The line is no longer drawn at murder.
And I just saw this… https://www.rawstory.com/trump-epstein-2675269942/
You should look more to who runs the justice department rather than the nature of the crime. We are not all the same.
This is fucking insanity
The United States is a failed nation. The decline is underway.
Yeah Texas is full of trumpers top to bottom. Those of us with actual brains have to fly low or risk decapitation by the jihadi emulators behind the badges
No justice no peace
Mhm, an accident. You don’t accidentally:
- load a gun
- pick the gun up
- disengage the safety
- point the gun at a person
- put the finger on the trigger
The trigger can be very sensitive and you can accidentally shoot a gun. After all other safety precautions have been purposefully violated
The justice system in the US is quite unjust.
I’m surprised they didn’t return on “negligence causing death” or so. The bar is lower.
But he was a red-stater, so maybe that’s …okay, now?
That guy’s neighbours need to chip-in for a billboard. Just with her face.
Okay. Maybe a “no justice no peace” in small print.
What is that title? “Man who shot British woman”?? Isn’t it a lot more interesting to say “Man who shot his own daughter”? Their relationship seems far more interesting and relevant to the situation than her country of origin, wtf is this journalism? Or am I missing something?
Because a) It’s now an international incident, and b) the source is BBC.
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Ah, I see part of the issue. OP is a butt for removing the familial link in their title. The BBC headline is more accurate.
Oh my bad, I assumed that the title matched the article, as that is a common rule in a lot of news communities.
they gotta soften it SOMEHOW!
Let’s see if I got this right. He gets into an argument with his daughter where he says he doesn’t care if Donald Trump were to rape her because he has two more daughters. There is obviously no coming back from thinking let alone saying such a thing.
The next day he downs a bottle of wine and invites his daughter to his room right before she leaves back to England. In the room he claims she says she wants to see his handgun. As he pulls it out of the drawer and it just happens to go off and also just happens to be aimed right at her.
Yeah, dude couldn’t let her live after what he had told her, it is pretty obvious. He tricks her to coming into his room where there is no witness and silences her forever.
As he pulls it out of the drawer and it just happens to go off and also just happens to be aimed right at her.
Also worth noting that he shot her with a Glock. Glocks have a safety built directly into the trigger, which needs to be pressed before the trigger will move. It’s the blue part of the trigger in this image:
In terms of “just happened to go off”, a Glock is just about as safe as you can get. The dude 1000% pulled the trigger, because that sprung lever needs to be pressed before the trigger will even begin to move.
Shit headline. A trumper murdered his own daughter after an argument about Trump. He then claimed “accident.”
He got away with it.
Could someone please explain to me how the fuck do you kill someone, even if it’s manslaughter, and not get tried over it?
Because it’s okay, he still has 2 more daughters 👍
To be fair you only really need one.
Grand jury, not regular jury, which likely consists of rich white men that’s a holdover from Jim crow. Prosecutors who agree with the defendent and intentionally try for charges they know won’t stay. Texas.
It was an honor killing because she spoke against the Dear Leader. That’s legal in Texas, haven’t you heard?
Since the Kirk shooting there has been a violent eruption of “we are done with you”, right to left. We are not to be discussed or argued with henceforth, only removed, by whatever means.
This is the rhetoric. Clearly, it is more than rhetoric.
No, I’m serious, please eli5… Where I’m from, murder + suspect = a trial…
The grand jury is an extension of the district attorney’s office. When a crime is suspected of being committed, the district attorney brings the evidence to a grand jury. The prosecutor has a lot of discretion in what evidence the grand jury sees. They can do things like include evidence that they know won’t stand up in court, or intentionally exclude exculpatory evidence (that would prove the suspect’s innocence).
Additionally, there is no defense attorney at the grand jury. Nobody has been charged with a crime yet, so the suspect can’t even defend themselves. The old joke among defense attorneys is that the grand jury would indict a ham sandwich for murder if the DA wanted them to.
The point of the grand jury is for the prosecutor to go “do I have enough evidence to go to trial?” On paper, it is meant to prevent frivolous charges and protect clearly innocent suspects. If the grand jury decides there is enough evidence to go to trial, then the suspect is officially charged with a crime and the entire arrest+trial part of the prosecution kicks off. But in reality, it is often just used as a scapegoat by the district attorney. The grand jury is anonymous, which makes them very convenient as a scapegoat. As far as the public is concerned, the grand jury is just a sort of massless, faceless blob. The DA is typically an elected position, which means they need to keep the public’s wants in mind. And this can come into conflict with the job, when they have a politically inconvenient case.
For example, let’s say a cop kills someone. The public is out for blood. But the police union has privately told the DA that if charges get pressed, the cops will collectively stop cooperating as witnesses and won’t collect evidence at crime scenes. Functionally making the DA’s job impossible.
So the DA uses the grand jury as a scapegoat. They refuse to bring any evidence (because again, they can choose to exclude evidence), and then the grand jury refuses to indict because they were given no evidence. Then the DA jumps in front of the news cameras and goes “I tried my best, and I brought the case to the grand jury! But the big mean grand jury refused to indict! Remember that I’m fighting for you. Vote for me!” And the grand jury (as a faceless blob) can’t defend themselves and go “hey uhh, we would have indicted that cop if the DA brought any evidence…”
Thank you.
I think the grand jury rule it an accidental discharge (because it’s Texas) and it’s how you kill somebody without being held accountable
That would still qualify as manslaughter.
If the prosecutor tries you for the wrong charge they’re usually not allowed to try again with a lesser charge
They can if this never got past the grand jury.
It’s extremely uncommon for them to try, but Trump is normalizing it
I’m a man and I’m not laughing.
You don’t have to say it, I was already leaving.
Took me too long but come back so I can tell you to get outta here.
That’s insane. Sure, an accidental discharge is an accident. Whatever.
Pointing the gun in the direction that an accidental discharge would kill somebody is a guilty act.
And having the gun loaded should be, too.
For the same reason that half the MAGAts in government that we have crimes + named suspects with mountains of evidence, and still no trial.
The same reason donld Trump incited a crowd of people, on camera, to go try and overthrow the government on a cold January morning 6 years ago, and despite people dying and people being murdered in the attempt, the person we have on camera starting it is now the goddamn president instead of in a cell or pine box.
We have no justice system. It only ever existed for whichever out group is being targeted. The rich and influential don’t exist in those groups and instead of trying to hide that like they used to, nowadays they just openly flaunt it.
the lightest charge, wrongful death, is civil. not criminal
Have they at least taken his guns away since he’s clearly not responsible enough to own them? Oh wait, I forgot it was Texas for a second.
You couldn’t make this shit up
@Canconda@lemmy.ca these are the moderates&right wingers you’re dealing w/in 🇺🇲
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Why did that British women go there in the first place ? Its like going to Syria and complaining about getting bombed. Anyways RIP.
she was his daughter.
Which OP intentionally obscured by changing the headline, which is “Dad shot daughter after ‘arguing about Donald Trump’.” The BBC couldn’t have been clearer about it.
Before fighting about people being confusing about OP’s headline of choice, maybe ask OP why they changed the title.
Just saying.
WTF!! White boomers really need to stop watching TV and scrolling through apps. They are weak and fragile and don’t understand how technology can fuck their tiny brains forever.
don’t understand how technology can fuck their tiny brains forever.
Have you heard of the expression “people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones”?
Because it seems rather appropriate for this.
Remember folks, it only takes 3 clicks to block in Lemmy.
Are you really that stupid or do you just want to victimblame? She was shot by her own fucking father, so maybe it wasn’t her own choice to go there.
Are you really that stupid or do you just want to victimblame?
Both. It can be both, and I think might be in this case.
Sadly you might be right.
Stfu! I didn’t read the article coz its no biggie. People die everyday by guns in US. Its completely normal in US. Tomorrow there will be some other headline and she’ll be forgotten.
I’m detecting the presence of some form of personality disorder here.
Imagine what it must be like inside the brain of the person who wrote this comment.
Holy fuck.
Guys, I am a realist. I understand your frustration but such is life and I dont like to pretend and live a fake life.
I’m no expert, but I can imagine it ain’t that pleasant.
What a sad human you are.
Mate I am a realist. Let’s live in the real life and not some pretend ‘I care for you’ life.
