This was intentional.
I’m pretty sure they weren’t accidentally murdered.
Her family home was specifically targeted so yeah. Israel wants to send a message that they will kill your entire family for reporting on their genocide.
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I’m so fucking tired of our western politicians and media pretending that Israel isn’t one of the nastiest and most evil state on this planet. Spineless fucking cowards the lot of them.
You see atrocities, usa govt sees free military bases near lots of oil reserves
The govt might.
But what really matters is how much evangelicals want all jews in one place to tempt Jesus to come back and nuke israel all in revenge before he raptures them all up in his spaceship.
I’ve know sbc who basically drool when they talk about it.
Those guys are just so fucking insane.
Can we cool it with the atrocities for a bit?
That statement suggests anyone on here has some kind of power to prevent it. If wishing/praying worked then it would have never happened.
There is measures everyone can take by speaking up, holding political representatives accountable, boycotting Israeli products or products by companies complicit in Israeli crimes, by demonstrating, by organizing and by educating ourselves.
As an individual we have little power. As a collective we have more than enough power, which is why it is crucial never to become defeatist.
Yeah but it’s a relatable sentiment, one I identify with personally as well. Maybe that can be the point
that’s because religion is a construct to control the masses.
this is why we’re seeing progressives being targeted in America with harsh religious overtones.
No one has sullied the memory of the holocaust more than Israel
They’re just trying to make sure everyone remembers with holocaust 2.0
Well I’m sure as hell not gonna forget, can they just stop already
You know the majority of Jews aren’t Israeli right?
7.2 million out of 15.8 worldwide. Not a majority but the plurality. Another 6.8 in America, a country basically run by Israeli interests.
“the Jews run America” is definitely not white supremacist propaganda. Definitely the attitude of people who typically care about brown babies and journalists being murdered. Come on son. Let me hear your leftist thoughts on George Soros. Oroboros tail eating dumb shit useful idiotic racist motherfucker.
Also, more than half is enough to qualify for a false equivocation. So, no, with your fuzzy math.
I’ll give the benefit of the doubt here. But if you’re at all “leftist” and attribute America to being run by “Israel” you should really understand who’s framing you are repeating here.
America is not “run by Israeli interest”. It is run by the interest of capital and for the interest of capital. American capitalist are absolutely the ones running, encouraging, and most of all enabling the actions of Israel. And they hide behind “creating a safe place for Jews” like we don’t all understand it’s just another madagascar plan.
Please don’t fall for this “Israel runs America”. Especially trying to attribute all Jewish Americans to supporting Israel.
Israel IS American interest. And that interest is for a white supremacists capitalist class. Using Antisemitism as a shield will only last for so long. These Nazi’s are going to drop that real quick and start “sending Jews to Israel where they can be safe” before we know it.
And if it wasn’t clear. The people that say America is “run by Israel” are Nazis. And the Nazi leaders running this country will quickly start singing that same song when they are done using antisemitism/Israel as reason to deport Muslims and anyone supporting Palestine.
Please don’t let fascist fool you. The Israeli fascist do not care about Jews and neither do the American fascist. They both only care about creating their own fascist ethnostates.
The single down vote is clearly a zionist lmao.
The 16 downvotes are a fantastic reminder that the “hur dur hating genocide is antisemitism” might actually have some antisemitic truth. The left version of “you can’t say anything funny anymore.” Lots of useful idiots on the left too, that don’t realize they’re just saying “America is run by the Jews” with different language.
Wow… just wow…
It’s heartbreaking and enraging.
We’re essentially at the point where the Israeli government could justify the Holocaust as long as the Nazis said “Hamas officers hiding among them” before killing people. The genocide is not only cruel but a callous waste of life, hope and talent.
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What the fuck dude.
All the fuck.
Nah. I mean I’m German and what you’re saying is literally what we’ve been hearing from Neonazi circles for decades. It’s historically wrong and actually antisemitic.
The holocaust is the name for this specific event and there has not in human history been a larger industrially organized murder of a people.
It’s kind of insane that this neonazi propaganda is now being adopted from what I assume are leftists.
Yes, there has been. Neonazi propaganda is bad, but so is Zionist propaganda
The transatlantic slave trade put 12 million people on ships from Africa to the Americas. 2 million died and 10 million lived awful lives no better than that of the Jews in concentration camps.
Once you add their descendents (we don’t know the total number) we have 10s to 100s of millions of people living in work camps for 20 generations spanning 350 years.
Never has there been any compensation paid to descendants of slavery. Even today, there is still compensation paid to descendants of Holocaust victims, and the time difference between the end of slavery and the Holocaust is less than that between the Holocaust and today.
And it’s not just this one. Germany more or less ignores the genocide it committed in Namibia.
Even when it comes to WW2, the focus is always on the 6 million Jews and not the 20 million Slavs. Even though Slavs are a more homogeneous ethnic group than Jews. It was just inconvenient during the cold war to see the USSR and its citizens as a victim worthy of compensation.
And then finally, this live streamed genocide in Gaza. Which in some respects is worse than the Holocaust, even if the absolute number is lower.
My grandparents were resistance fighters in WW2. They knew Jews were being picked up and sent to camps, and they saved a few from that fate, but they didn’t know the truth about Auschwitz until after the war. The images were not publicly available in occupied Europe. They were shocked. And the same is true for most Germans. The Nazi’s never had popular democratic support for the war and genocide.
But in Gaza, we can all see it. It is being denied, while being live streamed. The Israeli’s, Americans and the Germans can see the starving kids in Gaza and still provide popular democratic support to its continuation.
The Germans of WW2 never reached that level of moral depravity, only a few Nazi’s did.
The transatlantic slave trade, horrible as it was, took hundreds of years to make its victims, and was not a campaign of targeted extermination. There was little to no care for the slaves’ lives, but their murder wasn’t the goal.
The Holocaust only lasted from 41 to 45. 6 million jews were murdered in a span of only 4 years. In a period of just 100 days 1,47 million jews were systematically targeted and exterminated. That’s nearly double the rate of the Rwandan genocide. It’s the same amount of people who died on board of the slave ships spanning from the 16th to the 19th century. No genocide in history has a higher death rate than that. 90+% of Polish jews were murdered, a near total extinction.
That’s what people refer to when they talk about the largest industrial genocide. No other genocide in our history has come close. The numbers do not lie, and calling the memory of the Holocaust “zionist propaganda” is pretty sickening. It’s not just zionists that claim this you know, reputable historians around the world do.
there has not in human history been a larger industrially organized murder of a people.
In a period of just 100 days 1,47 million jews were systematically targeted and exterminated. That’s nearly double the rate of the Rwandan genocide.
If you put it like that Rwanda’s manual genocide sounds evilly impressive.
Dying wasn’t the goal, for the concentration camps, either, generally. It was creation of a slave labor race. Generally, the ones who were exterminated right out where the ones incapable of work (In the German’s eyes).
Kinda the same with slavery. Incapable of hard labor Black people were just put down.
And is murdering them via forced labor different if it only happens in select camps, versus in the cotton fields? Is time frame a difference, really? 6 years to die vs 20 years to die… Honestly, the former is likely more “humane”…
Did I say the slave trade was an industrial genocide?
You are cherry picking parameters to try and make the Holocaust some kind of unique tier of atrocity.
In the same time frame 20 million Slavs died.
On certain islands in the Caribbean, 100% of the native population was murdered and displaced, which is more than 90%.
Yes, there are certain aspects of the Holocaust that are unique, but it is not in a unique tier by itself. There are many metrics that make other atrocities worse.
Holocaust is not just another word for genocide. It describes the systematic, industrialized killing of an entire ethnicity. Like modern industrial-capitalist logistic chains, the nazis optimized the KZs and their Hinterland for the maximum efficiency in killing Jews.
There has not been something like this in the entire history of humanity. Please educate yourself. I say that without judging you. I’m aware that there have been many other genocides, each one more terrible than one could put in words. And yes, Israel is committing on in Gaza right now, but that doesn’t diminish the enormous suffering of the Jewish people in the last century.
If what the Israeli government and army are doing right now makes you go “Well maybe the Holocaust wasn’t sooo bad, all things considered” then you have some real soul searching to do. Stop consuming propaganda.
Dude, I never said the Holocaust ain’t bad.
You’re just a racist projecting your beliefs on others
You need to provide sources. For example: most Germans knew about concentration camps and the mass murder (source).
10 million lived awful lives no better than that of the Jews in concentration camps.
Source?
living in work camps for 20 generations spanning 350 years.
Source?
Never has there been any compensation paid to descendants of slavery
I’ll let you have this one
Even today, there is still compensation paid to descendants of Holocaust victims, and the time difference between the end of slavery and the Holocaust is less than that between the Holocaust and today.
So? The US is in the wrong for not compensating, Germany is actually trying at least.
not the 20 million Slavs.
We’re discussing the Holocaust perpetuated by the Nazi regime against Jewish people and other so-called ‘undesireable’ humans, not Stalin’s crimes against the people he was ostensibly responsible for. Stay on topic.
Even though Slavs are a more homogeneous ethnic group than Jews. It was just inconvenient during the cold war to see the USSR and its citizens as a victim worthy of compensation.
Why are you using ethnic homogeneity as an argument in your favor? Especially when trying to minimize the Jewish Holocaust in favor of painting the USSR as the victim‽
The Nazi’s never had popular democratic support for the war and genocide
The Germans of WW2 never reached that level of moral depravity, only a few Nazi’s did
Source? Pretty sure we had some pretty public trials over those claims already.
I don’t even disagree with you about Gaza, you’ve just got incredibly shit takes on history.
It blows my mind man. You are saying things that could come verbatim from a torch-carrying skinhead during a NPD rally in Dresden. Yet you call yourself a leftist according to your profile? How does that even happen?
The skinhead can be partially right about some things even if they’re monstrously wrong about the overall picture and what conclusions they draw. A neonazi would probably also say the earth is round, that doesn’t mean it isn’t true.
What, in particular, did that poster say that is so wrong? Are their numbers off? Did the other genocides not happen?
edit: To be clear: I’m talking about the poster you’re replying to here, not the deleted post above b/c who even knows what that said.
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If his home instance is any indication, this absolutely tracks for the Midwest US. I grew up in the northern Midwest and drove past a Confederate flag frequently for the better part of 15 years. I got to thinking about it; I recognized it as a dog whistle for racism, but did the people who flew it so proudly recognize it as such?
And I realized they probably didn’t. They likely saw it as a ‘proud symbol of their good ole boy, “states rights fighters” Southern heritage.’ and frankly, that idea bothered me at a deeper level than if they were flying that flag as a dog-whistle.
The people of Germany have taken generational responsibility for the horrendous, genocidal 3rd Reich. They own it, they condemn it, and they do their best to combat misinformation about it.
Not so for the US. We tried, briefly, a little bit, to affect and promote Reconstruction. It failed pretty spectacularly thanks to Andrew Johnson’s vetoes. The ensuing decades saw white supremacists develop the Good Ole Boy myth, white-washing and denying the true reason they wanted to fracture the Union.
Jump to today; Germans arguing against anti-Semitism while the US is deporting brown people to concentration camps.
My passport arrived today, praise Satan. Trying to properly secure a work visa in the EU but will also have my bugout bag with documentation close at hand.
Speaking of; got any job opportunities for a 2 YOE mechanical engineer? Or advice on applying to Masters programs in Germany? I believe I can travel to and stay in the Schengen Zone for 90 days visa-free with the US passport, but I’m not sure if I’m able to convert that to a work permit.
Any EU friends able to help a worried AuDHD dude? I know zero people who have traveled internationally and I’m lost.
You could register on couch surfing, it might be a good place to meet people once you start exploring options in Europe. You can also ask questions and advice, there is also events organised by people so it works a bit like a forum/ social media platform. You don’t have (the intent) to host or stay with someone to use it as as a source of local info: https://www.couchsurfing.com/
Also maybe this is valuable (maybe less if you’re only interested in moving around in the Schengen area): https://www.passportindex.org/passport/united-states-of-america/
Hey, this is excellent, thank you! Definitely going to chase this down.
Germany is supporting Israel and it’s ongoing genocide. You’re not in much of a position to shake your finger.
Germany is not doing much better in the anti-Semitism department considering that Palestinians are semites and Germany has made it illegal to criticize Israel.
I’m not German dude, I’m an American.
The support behind Israel in their genocide of the Palestinians is despicable.
Any support of any genocide anywhere is despicable.
Can we please stop excusing crimes against humanity when they happen to people we don’t like?
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You are blessed with a country with a functioning education system. It seems some countries only educate to the level of “Welcome to McDonald’s. Can I take your order?”
Are you a bot or just an uneducated wanna-be historian of the internet trying to teach people shit you have no expertise about?
But don’t anyone say that Israel is doing anything bad, or you’ll be deported to a concentration camp for your antisemitic terrorism, without trial.
So what are Republicans and the Trump administration doing to stop Israel?
Quite a lot.
Trump us destroying the international standing of Israel’s strongest ally, this should count for something.
So Trump is a real friend of Palestine, you should say thank you.
He also has put super high tariffs on the components to build most of Israel’s weapons!
They kept Harris from office, thus saving all Palestinians!
If Harris were in office, there would be people dying in Gaza right now!!
Absolutely nothing - on the contrary, they even supply the weapons with which these shameful murders are committed.
And Trump and his band of criminals are not even alone in this - my home country, Germany, is also aiding and abetting these terrible war crimes.
I simply cannot understand how a country like Israel, which is actually completely irrelevant on the world stage, not only gets away with genocide, but is even supported by many of those countries that otherwise always play the moralizer.
The only way I can explain this is that the fascist regime in Israel is taking advantage of the fact that this country is a leader in surveillance and espionage technology. Other than by blackmailing foreign state representatives, I simply cannot explain why so many countries persist in supporting all these terrible atrocities - in democratic countries even against the will of the people and at the massive expense of votes.
I’m aware that this is conspiracy theory, but I simply can’t explain it any other way because it is so incredibly absurd and shameful.
I mean, Bibi has long been the subject of an arrest warrant issued by the International Criminal Courts.
It is of course quite clear that no government official in the USA is interested in this, but the fact that European countries, which recognize this intuition as binding, are also thinking about how Netanyahu could be invited as a state guest without having to arrest him immediately is simply telling. And then also supplying weapons to a war criminal?
How?
Israel is not irrelevant on the world stage. They are a major intelligence asset. Nobody comes close to what they can do. And America knows this. They have been enabling Israel all these years hoping to keep that asset on their side. The second we turn on Israel they become a mercenary operation for our enemies.
There’s not really any way to win with Israel. They are assholes. They shouldn’t exist in the first place. And we continue to play nice with them while they kill everyone around them and threaten anyone who dares question them.
The US government has been supporting and arming israel for decades, haven’t you learn already?
What about this is new? America has allowed Israel to do this for decades. I guess it helped you feel better deluding yourself that this is somehow Trump’s fault, and not the American agenda as a whole that has bipartisan support.
Who was president when Shireen Abu Akleh was murdered in cold blood?
Sycophantic partisanship. Great job.
bipartisan
It’s a uniparty with factions. Call it for what it actually is.
I meant their kneejerk reaction to blaming Trump is partisan, not the genocide.
God I fucking hate Israel they’ve really taken the stage as God-awful monsters and I hate seeing this play out day after day SHIT
I’m here with you bro, I feel the same. I really felt that last “SHIT”. 🤝🫂
Considering I live in the US I just feel paralyzed about what to do. I want to be a Mushroom Kingdom champion but I’m not armed, I don’t even like violence, and I have two kids to protect. But I’m so sick of the twisted fucked up leaders making all these power grabs and massacres.
We all are, you’re not alone. ❤️ I’m also a father of two young boys. Ain’t no way I’m ready to go fight a war and die and leave them without a father. I’d rather flee, like a coward, just to be with them and so they won’t lose me.
Read this article if you want to feel horrible and powerless
Sucks but our only real power is remembering this and reminding others that it’s happening.
Well… there is one or two things you can do that you cannot mention here.
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They’re so scared of their image. Thats why I tarnish mine to stop this madness. Palestinians land was stolen. Israel is the rich entitled side and Palestine gets silenced and stripped of everything. It’s so sad they can’t just share.
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Another day another heartbreak. How do we measure this kind of loss.
By how many Palestinians (that are still alive) can’t go back to their generational homes.
Or by how many authentic homes are on Airbnb in Israel
I’d say numbers of civilian killed, but Israel has made it impossible to get accurate numbers as they’re painting everyone a target with a racial brush
Whatever flavour of colonialism and dystopia you want to taste
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