“Whether you choose violence or not, violence is coming to you. You either fight back or you die," Elon Musk told the large crowds at Saturday’s “Unite the Kingdom” rally.

More than 100,000 people descended on Britain’s capital on Saturday for one of the country’s largest far-right rallies in decades.

The “Unite the Kingdom” rally was organized by Tommy Robinson, a convicted fraudster with a violent criminal record, and attended by billionaire Elon Musk via video link. Amid a sea of flag-waving and soccer-style chanting from large crowds that exceeded expectations, violent clashes with police led to dozens of arrests.

It came amid a surge of nationalism in the U.K., with a far-right party topping the polls, and the murder of American conservative activist Charlie Kirk — an assassination Robinson used to mobilize support in the run-up to the event.

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    Absolute fucking morons.

    Every single one of those people is going to end up in poverty as a direct result of who they want to elect.

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      What you have to understand about these people is that they already feel they are down on their luck and are to weak to do anything about it.

      The best they can hope for to feel better about themselves is that other people are even worse off, which is why they are so full of hate and want immigrants to be punished.

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      Even then, it’ll be the fault of the people coming over with fuck all to try and rebuild their lives.

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    Jesus Christ, same planet but different worlds. How does someone so hateful have so many fans?

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      Basically everyone living in capitalism without regulation has been slowly and systemically crushed over time and the capitalists (and other parties interested in destabilization) have done a good job at convincing them that it’s not in fact the capitalists but rather immigrants, minorities, women, etc etc That are at fault

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    Whether you choose violence or not, violence is coming to you.

    From the even further right as it turned out.

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      Wait, I chose no violence, but it will still come my way?

      Now they’re just saying the quiet part out loud.

      Again.

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    Britain must stand united

    Where almost half the flags are not Union Jack but the English flag. 🤣🤣🤣
    Such a bunch of morons.

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      I’d bet a few of those actually do want to exclude people from the other UK nations. Not as many as are flying the flags, I grant you, but nonetheless. Colonialist mindset still runs deep in some of the English.

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    here in the states younger patrons coming in the shop have said they related to him and are in mourning

    fucking nuts just yesterday a younger couple came in and was the first thing mentioned and was like what about his views on keeping women in their place or his other extreme owner class ideals and woman with him stayed very quiet and busied herself with petting the shop cat

    nothing but praise for the guy came from them or any other of most of the younger patrons and even the older crowd seems to be for him but the media is toxic and controlled as is all narratives even with education

    United States was never the United States for all of us here but feels like getting worse but want to keep being hopeful just challenging

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    It’s crazy that people are claiming 3 million, I refuse to believe people are actually believing it.

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    Live for humanity, that’s the opposite of all this drama. They profit from your life and use you for their fights. They don’t let you have real faith in yourself or humanity because they need you to have faith in them and so they can continue to use you.

    Become fearless, have faith in self and genuine humanity, and become able to see through all this.

    It’s time to detach from these 1st world social lifestyles that are marketed towards us to make us easier to control.

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    I hate that they use terms like this for their shit. “Unite the kingdom” is up there with “bring balance to the force”

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    I am really, really happy that Britain left the EU.

    Sorry to any sane Brits, but the “ever more nuttier” European country not having any voting power in the EU, much less a veto, is a great thing.

    Mind you, lots of countries over here might end up like that, but Britain seems to be a decade ahead of the rest in that specific kind of shit show and it and the US might very well serve as a warning for the locals on this side of the Channel not to go down that route (just like the example of Brexit itself crushed any ideas about Leave Referendums in the rest of the EU).

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      I mean it’s pretty easy when you think about it. Like if the “far right” idea is a virus, the English language is it’s vector of infection, making it easier for ideas or memes to cross pollinate cultural between the US and UK. Some of the other EU countries have their own main language after all other than English so such spread is slower.

      In his eyes, the greatest symbiotic parasite Men has ever known isn’t microbial, it’s linguistics. Words are what keeps civilization, our world alive. Save the world not by taking Men’s lives but by taking their tongue.

      A wise philosopher once said, “it is no nation that we inhabit. Nay! Our native tongue is our true fatherland!”

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        And yet the Republic Of Ireland isn’t at all aligned with Britain in this.

        Not that I disagree with you, more that I think that there’s more than just that.

        I lived in a couple of places in Europe, Southern, Northern and also over a decade in Britain.

        IMHO, Britain has is very own cultural twists that make a certain kind of posh authoritarianism much more likely there: an incredibly entrenched dynastic elite (Britain has, I believe, the lowest social mobility in Europe) with a ton of structures to make sure it will always be so (the “public” schools -> Oxbridge -> daddy’s friend’s company “internship” path that makes sure the scions of the elites remain in that class, the Judiciary being almost entirelly in the hands of “public” school graduates even though they’re only 11% of population which gets reflected in quite different legal outcomes depending on one’s class, the The “Honors” System, the Lords with its inherited positions, and more).

        This elite has its own sub-culture (even including its own accent) which amongst other things is big on fakeness and very anti-empathy (I’ve personally known a handful of people from that section of society) and meanwhile the other end of society is also quirky as fuck, in a different way (amongst other things more violent and prejudiced than in other countries I lived in, hence things like the Hooliganism phenomenon).

        Then there are weird cultural postures than transverse society such as how people’s approach to their position in the social ladder is to focus on keeping those below them where the are, rather than try and climb it themselves, plus there is a general tendency to worry too much (IMHO) about keeping up appearences (to “look right” rather than “be good”) though it’s worse the higher up the social ladder one is (working class are the most genuine, middle class tend to be pretty fake, upper class live their entire lives behind a façade - hence the whole “posh” thing).

        Mind you, in my experience this mostly applies to the English and those from other nations are less like that, especially the Scotts.

        (I fully support the idea of an Independent Scotland in the EU)

        Anyways, my point is that Britain has it’s own set of wierd quirks, which mixed with the shit imported from the US (IMHO, Brits seem to in the last couple of decades somehow have combined the worst of both cultures rather than the best) yields this “Rocketship to Posh Fascism” effect.

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    Right wingers in Europe are becoming more and more radicalised. I can see it everywhere but EU has itself to blame due to its failed immigration policy particularly from Africa and middle East.

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      Congratulations on buying the propaganda you absolute chode of a human being. You’re doing exactly what Elon and all these fucking idiots want.

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        Here’s a lesson you can learn, you want to be heard? Don’t be a rude prick, I’m entitled to opinion as much as anyone. I’m actually pro migration.

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          You’re entitled to an opinion. You’re not entitled to be respected for it.

          Opinions precede action.

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            Actually, opinions are the foundation of democracy and therefore must be respected always. You might not agree with someone’s opinion but I’m not here to convince you otherwise. You are clearly here because your extremist voice and flagrant disrespect of anyone you disagree with stands in your own personal development. People like you are the reason the right wingers become more extreme. Proof of the matter is obvious everywhere in Europe. Politicians don’t respect the wishes of the people who elected them. The EU has had an immigration problem for at least a decade , they are now electing extremist and populist politicians out of desperation that their voice isn’t heard. Populist parties rise to power out of general unhappiness of the electorate, not the other way around.

            You might not like them, hell I certainly don’t but you cant change the society in a few years, it takes decades, even hundreds of years. Feel free to drown yourself in the sorrows of your utopia when right wing nutters are being elected all around Europe.

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              Opinions are the foundation of all ideologies. Hitler’s opinions on undesirables for example.

              The reason right wingers become more extreme is because of allowing their opinion on violence go unchecked lets them begin to actually start practicing it. Even the Charlie Kirk killer was a Trumpist who thought Kirk was too much to the left.

              The issue in humanity has always been that the left has always only fought back once things become dire. They’ve only ever functioned as a check to a society’s collapse rather than a deterrent to it’s downward decline. If the left actually adhered to the paradox of intolerance, then society and humankind would progress much faster, because those who are a factual detriment to society - the greedy, the power hungry, the psychopathic - wouldn’t be allowed to gain power, either permanently or through meaningful consequences.

              The issue is the left is inherently peaceful to a fault. They don’t actually go out and start punching let alone killing until it’s too late and they’ve literally been forced into it.

              It’s also why rarely does violence actually permanently fix things - because those willing to do it usually want power rather than justice, and even if that is the case, it does not remain permanent policy.

              But then, being reactionary rather than preventative to threats has always been the greatest fault of humanity, but especially the left. Not being aggressive with aggressors early on, not dealing with climate change until it’s kinda too late, etc.

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                And democracy is an ideology that we are supposed to follow. That ideology comes mostly in the form of representative democracy where you elect someone that is supposed to represent your group.

                You don’t know if Tyler Robinson is left or right , that is all media speculation at this stage. As someone that lived behind the iron curtain, the concept that left is inherently peaceful is complete nonsense. Neither left or right is inherently violent or peaceful. Violence of the far left and far right is always a result of someone who thinks their ideology is superior, disregards all moral grounds, and forces their will and/or dogma on somebody else. Leninist-Marxist, PLO, Earth Liberation Front, too many examples to list. I do agree that the left is generally less violent today.