• MimicJar@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    I mean the US is heavily car centric. Self driving cars are an attempt to adapt to what the reality of the world currently is.

    We should absolutely be doing things to make cars less of a requirement by improving public transit and creating more livable spaces that don’t require cars, that can even be the primary goal, but it won’t eliminate cars completely, and if it does it will take A LOT longer than self driving cars.

    Self driving cars are a great idea, but they aren’t a fix everything solution, they just one part of an overall solution.

    Quick edit: Also the cars Musk is developing are not even close to what we need. He’s being deliberately obtuse and creating more problems than he’s solving.

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      8 hours ago

      Self driving cars are a great idea, but they aren’t a fix everything solution, they just one part of an overall solution.

      Why are they a great idea? What are they making better? How is it worth the real and opportunity costs?

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          I don’t have the means or motivation to do research now from the couch, so I’ll concede you may be correct. However, I think it might be even safer to take those same billions of dollars and invest them in mass transit and other infrastructure changes. That would mean fewer car accidents, less pollution, nicer spaces, healthier people, healthier economies, etc. private car ownership cannot be the long term solution. If it’s not an outright dead end, it’s certainly a side street instead of high speed rail (if you’ll pardon a strained metaphor).

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            I’d actually be genuinely curious to see how it compares to taxi drivers, bus drivers, or ubers. Since they drive professionally, you’d hope they’d drive a bit safer than the average human.

            I’m sure nothing will be able to compete with the safety numbers of trains or just being close enough to walk though.

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            56 minutes ago

            While I’d absolutely love better and more public transit, it just doesn’t make sense in a lot of areas that are too spread out or don’t have enough people per square mile.

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            4 hours ago

            To be fair I don’t have 100% confidence that self driving is safer than human driving. I just believe that based on the current data, it seems to be. If new data comes out tomorrow, then I’ll look at and evaluate that data.

            I also don’t believe that investment is a zero sum game. We should absolutely be investing in both. Both are valuable. You don’t have to only invest in one.