I want thicker more durable phones with longer battery life back.
Idk about everyone else but slapping a case on each and every new phone is stupid.
Why are all these speciality phones always the same price as a flagship? Why would I buy a worce phone fhe the same price as last years galaxy s?
Might be the price difference Samsung, Apple and whatever get from selling your data?
I’m still holding on to my iphone mini 13, cuz’ I really like one-handed phones. This has NFC and an SD Card slot which is my biggest needs… and the support life seems awesome. My biggest worry - the processor.
Why is it still $600
For that prie with those specs I’ll think it will be rather unattractive to most people. A single camera, a cheap screen, a low end processor. I can get a Ikko Mind one or a commodore callback, which are much more pocketable. The latter one even has exchangeable batteries.
Crazy thing I was thinking the same thing. I was trying to justify the 400 USD price tag on the commodore but now it makes way more sense than this phone
THANK YOU! If it’s not 2k like the Motorola then we may get this lol
Well, when i see one running linux ill buy one… so prolly never
I get that we can’t use the metric system, but I use an Android phone. I don’t know how big or small an iPhone 13 Mini is.
5.3 inches (thats around 13 centimeters) Read the article.
same. judging from the thumbnail and the phone that I’m typing this on, it’s appropriately sized for one hand use. good.
3.2 iPod nanos then. 1/8 of a MacBook air. 1/4 of an iPad. See? 1 iPhone 13 mini just makes more sense.
But how many corgis is that?
3.5 mm jack?
They give you a USBC to 3.5 mm converter for the headphones, so unfortunately not a true 3.5 mm jack.
Yeah, no fucking way I’m carrying around an adaptor
I just keep it plugged into the headphones, it’s as if it’s not even there. But I would also prefer a jack.
I’m waiting for a phone with a decent DAC and a true headphone jack to replace my v60. That moondrop or whatever phone a few years back almost did it for me, but not quite.
Unless it has an unlockable bootloader and ability for installing custom roms, it’s just another useless thing for the landfill.
Does it not?
Seems not to, and also doesn’t allow apps outside of the “official store”. So worse than google somehow.
Wellll, shit.
Mediatek Processor, so no
Will it run Graphene? Lineage? Calyx?
With the pure derp of Google my primary deciding factor is support for alternative OS images.
looks like degoogled & modified aosp with a minimalistic approach
I was under the impression with Google’s new policy you’d still be able to turn off the unverified installations check (albeit with a 24 hour waiting period), in the dev options. Crazy that Google is trying to take away the one thing that keeps me using it over Apple.
Thanks, all my interest in this product just reduced to zero saving me time and money!
oh gross. I didn’t dig too much into it but that’s about all I need to know to stay away.
I love it! They just helped me out by completely killing my consumerist urge to get the device!
LOOOOLOL imagine trying to sell a “DeGoogled” OS but it’s actually just like Google, but somehow shittier. What a load.
Oooh, love to see it! 🤩
Don’t get it! No side loading!
Wtf? In this day & age? 🤦🏼♂️
Ikr 😩
LOL are you me? I’ve only used Pixels since the 4a because the most important thing about any phone has become removing spyware and AI bullshit, and generally being under my control. And for that reason I don’t buy anything else.
But GOS has very high hardware standards that a small OEM could probably never meet. The best they can do is give it an unlocked bootloader and leave it up to the community.
Otherwise the name is apt. There’s very little separating modern smartphones especially the crazy high end ones. This seems like it would be “Enough” to do what people need to do.
The 4a is the last good Pixel
Mmm I have to say the P5 was the best Pixel.
No 3.5 mm jack? That’s a no.
Also too heavy
valid counterpoint
Do any of them even support stuff like banking apps? I haven’t looked into it much personally because I always hear that you can’t use critical apps like that on alternative OSes.
Both my banking apps work on graphene. There’s a list of ones that work floating around.
On graphene, no issues for any current apps.
unfortunately I’ve not been able to get a single gig worker app to work with lineage, even with all the play services verification work arounds.
Yes, but it depends on your institution. My credit union has always supported custom ROMs, for example.
My credit union has always supported custom ROMs, for example.
“Support” is the wrong word here.
As long as they don’t intentionally sabotage use with custom ROMs, almost everything will work. Things that rely on Google’s libraries/services might need MicroG or the like.
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Do you have a non–antagonistic setting, maybe? Your vibe-coders should look into that upgrade.
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Do I???
I use graphene and the banking app I use works fine (Revolut)
Mine did with Graphene and Lineage, bit they recently updated to “Verified Device” crap breaking Lineage. Graphene seems to have some sort of fix, though that could be broken later. Google is getting pretty damn evil.
Nice. I have no desire to carry a tablet around in my pocket. So tired of these massive phones. These things are supposed to be portable.
these massive phones
roughly the size of iPhone 13 Mini
Wat? LOL
Just out of curiosity, how old are you and do you ever use your phone to watch a video or play games?
Also not OP, and I’ll decline to post my age, but I’m old enough to have used small phones, and I think my previous Sony X Compact was the right size. The Enough is very close to the same dimensions.
I do use my phone to watch video or play games on occasion, and no doubt, bigger phones are better for those things. Better still is my tablet; better than that is my laptop; better than that is a gaming PC with a 32" 4K display and a mechanical keyboard.
The phone’s main job is to fit comfortably in my pocket and be easily used one-handed. Making it substantially worse at those jobs so it can be marginally better at the things other devices will always far outclass it in is a fail for me.
Watch a video, sure. Play games, maybe mindustry or shattered pixel dungeon but neither of those needs a big screen.
My fairphone 6 is already way too big. It doesn’t even fit in literally any waterproof bike phone holder I can find.
Not OP, but I’m in my 40s and the answer to both your questions is a resounding no. I went for a pixel 3a to a OnePlus 13 about two years ago and the thing is way too big. Even my work issues iPhone 15 is a bit too big.
The screen real estate is kind of nice, but pocket fit is abysmal.
Typing on Pixel 3a now. Love this phone.
I watch videos on occasion, did it on my zenfone, do it on a pixel 7a.
Nobody is taking away bigass fones. Would be nice to have a handful of small ones.
Daaayum, pampa. So fly that even your pockets have fit?
You can pick almost any mid-range device in the 500 euro price range and that thing does 95% of what the 2k€ flagship does except fold in half and cost month’s wage. That’s Enough Phone for anyone.
None of them is nearly as small as iPhone 13 mini.
Yeah but theyre all sized like tablets cause that is something that apparently appeals to poorer people, having slab phones?
I try to keep my phones under 300 EUR.
500 euro price range and that thing does 95% of what the 2k€ flagship does
I’ve never gone above 250€ and the last two phones I’ve had fit that description. Only real difference is my hatred towards the world when the screen breaks.
The idea sounds good, but it’s considerably thicker than a Sony X Compact from 2016, and it doesn’t have a headphone jack (the Sony did). I use the headphone jack.
I’ve been begging for thicker phones for years
For battery capacity, or ergonomics?
It’s like with laptops. Apple is obsessed with thin laptops but really I don’t want to thin laptop I want to laptop I can use to beat people to death with so that it’s repairable and actually contains standard issue components rather than miniaturized custom things I won’t be able to source when it inevitably breaks.
If you’re going to have a camera bump you might as well just flatten out the back and give yourself more battery space.
Both? Plus getting a flat back. Just in general it makes more room for things.
I don’t follow, sorry. What things?
Whatever you want? Battery? Processor? Cooling/vapor chamber? headphone jack? etc. etc.
I’m listening. You mean modding or OEM? 🤓
OEM
(You don’t deserve a downboat for that. Here ya go, brave anon. 🖖🏼)
A Sony compact from 2016 didn’t have to house today’s hardware.
Any phone today is larger and thicker than my Samsung S4 from 2014. Any phone today would also outperform it by orders of magnitude.
This Enough phone doesn’t look any thicker than many phones today.
Unfortunately a headphone jack is required by a small subset of users, just like small phones. So wanting a small phone and a headphone jack is an even smaller subset of users.
Though I think Unihertz does headphone jacks even on their Jelly phones.
Unihertz also understands that phone width is a bigger issue than thickness (they probably have some ratio they’ve determined works). I can’t reach across my Pixel 5 one-handed.
Edit: from their own website, the Enough phone is less than 12mm thick. That’s on the thicker side, but not world-ending thick.
A Sony compact from 2016 didn’t have to house today’s hardware.
Neither does the Enough. The proposed CPU is low-mid range and there’s only one rear camera.
Sounds like I’ll begin designing a printable case for it. 🤩
What? How old is that peripheral that jacks in?! 😵💫
Hol’up. You use an ⅛-¼" adaptor, don’t you. 😋 (link for the youngins)
(edit: it was meant in jest, no judgment, my apologies)
What? How old is that peripheral that jacks in?!
I have used all of the following this year:
- Circumaural headphones: new (this year)
- IEM headphones: 2019? 2020?
- Aux ports in various rental and relatives’ cars: various
- Professional audio console to play a file for a room full of people because I was the only one with a phone with a headphone jack: doesn’t matter - it will have analog inputs whether it’s brand new or 50 years old
- Tape adapter in an old van: probably as old as the van (2002)
You use an ⅛-¼" adaptor, don’t you.
I believe that was involved for one of the above items.
There’s also 3 inch Unihertz Jelly Star. Did anyone actually bought it?
I had one but only used it for 3 months due to its poor software. Its way to small, my eyes were hurting using that thing.
I have one as a secondary device, for the most part it’s an mp3 player that can call and text, I’d use it more if Signal let me install on two phones, but its nice to carry around and has a headphone jack.
At 19mm thick, that is not a small phone at all.
I got one for my wife. She used it for about two years, but it was a pain to read her messages. And if you increased the font to its largest size it looked like shit and you could only have 5 lines of text on the whole display.
It’s nice, but you get tired of it. It was cool seeing the faces of people when paying with NFC.
That’s made by a Chinese company that breaks gpl by not releasing the kernel source. There are custom Roms for it but they’re based on a binary blob that can’t be adjusted.
Ew. I hope it withers on the vine. 🤮
I have bought it and i don’t recommend. It like a heavy potato.
I had one. I loved it. But I overestimated my vision at my age lol
Yes, and besides a few issues, I love it, currently looking for a replacement, will have an eye on that campaign
