You must log in or # to comment.
Ha! As if Ubuntu didnt update on its own and then completely killed my internet access because it changed the file system of how it stores DNS but didnt somehow do it right to the point of me spending 3 hours figuring out what file I had to recreate and why to get it working again.
Linux is cool but not this make believe version of cool.
Might be off topic, but does anyone else dread the outcome of their Linux system after an update?
It seems like I always time my updates at the time when things go wrong. It makes me not even want to update my system at all, because it usually involves a lot of pain to get it back to a working AND updated state.
For example, last month on the 20th, I updated openSUSE Tumbleweed through zypper dup. All is well, and everything updated just fine. Well, after that update, I noticed Dolphin (the file browser that comes with KDE I think) crashes when creating a new folder in any of my drives, whether it be the main OS drive or one of my many HDDs inside of the computer case, or my NAS. Doesn’t matter, I go to create the folder, name it, and as soon as it is made, Dolphin freezes.
Well, I learned earlier this year that if my system is booting normally and able to play games (all I really care about to be honest), I REALLY shouldn’t touch it because the next update might break my stuff again. Well, on the 27th, I updated through zypper dup, and what do you know, my GEProton stuff no longer works. So, I spent the entire afternoon trying to figure out what I can do to get it working again, fail, boot back into a snapshot from before the update.
So, I just wanted to know what everyone else feels about updating their systems, especially if you have a similar use case like mine. :/
As others said, that is part of the fun of rolling release.
If you enjoy openSUSE, what you want is their fixed release, openSUSE Leap. Theses are EOL in 24 months, but there are some built-in migration tools to help you upgrade to the next version when it comes out.
Remember to back up your data!
Yes, thank you, but when it comes to these point releases, I don’t want to have to practically reinstall the OS just for an update, if that makes sense? I appreciate the reply though, seriously! I just wanted to see what others had to say. :/
It sounds like maybe a rolling release distro like openSUSE Tumbleweed is not the best fit for you. The ‘fix the system after updates’ is supposed to be part of the fun for those that like rolling release.
I would suggest switching to a point release type distro, where you may end up with some bugs for a while, but they are the same bugs that you can figure out workarounds for.
edit: grammar
I don’t think distro hopping would be a good choice for me since I already have very little time to even game, let alone diagnose and fix my computer after what should be a simple update…
I’ve already painstakingly set my computer up the way I want it, which took days with the limited amount of time I have. It’s why I don’t want to update at all, actually, since when it is working fine, it’s working great. I also need the newer drivers and other stuff that a rolling release provides me, since I am trying to game mainly.
I can’t use immutable distros, because that over complicates me using my computer as my computer.
Hold off on updating and wait for the latest slow roll release and migrate to that? Long term try to migrate to a future Leap build? Big jumps while upgrading is usually when shit breaks.
You don’t really need the newest drivers unless you want to play the newest games
I play games from the '90s all through the newest releases, so I do need the newest and most up to date drivers. Gaming is my hobby. :/
Nope, I just update my systems, reboot and it work. I got an ubuntu with a NVIDIA GPU and Intel CPU for running docker containers. And a bazzite with amd GPU and CPU. Both updated weekly or monthly depend of the time. 95% of the time I got no issues. Last time. Got issue was NVIDIA which forgot to package a docker dependency in a driver version and I had to jump to the last version to make it work. (I usually hot for version -1 to avoid the issues NVIDIA drivers cause in Linux)
Ah. I do have an NVIDIA GPU also, so how would I go about making sure that I use a specific version of the GPU drivers? I’ve been on openSUSE for over a year now, and it has mostly been smooth sailing, but I do not have a lot of time after work to diagnose my computer when I just want to relax for two or three hours before having to end the day and a new work day start…
For Ubuntu you install drivers with version like this nvidia-driver-550-server with 550 being the version of the driver. I think they are at 580 or 680.
Ah, I see. Yes, I think I have the newest open-drivers for NVIDIA, but on openSUSE, I don’t see an option for a specific driver. Maybe when I have more time I will see what I can find! Thank you! :)
What OS do I need to avoid AI sloppers? No one is interested in your mediocre auto generated garbage.
I am interested.
hey bro this image kinda smells AI Generated my man
Because it is
Help me out here whippersnapper, all I can see that is suspicious is the coffee cup and grey note next to it, but everything else looks clean
For me it’s the text (too regular and perfectly-ruled to be hand lettered, but too much variance between the letterforms to be a font) and the little AI artifact on the random doohickey directly under the bottom left corner of the AI computer monitor:
Aside from that, it’s just the weight of unmotivated choices. Why is the “good” side of the image grayscale while the “bad” side is in color (a human probably would’ve done it the other way)? Why are the desks drawn slightly differently while the person, chair, and computer are drawn the same (a human would’ve probably made everything identical to better illustrate their point)? Why all the random clutter on one but not the other (if the point was to make the AI computing experience look scattered and cluttered, surely they would’ve made it more overwhelmingly cluttered, but if it was for verisimilitude they’d have put clutter on both desks)? Also, subjectively, the “AI” logo on the screen suggests a pleasant experience, not an oppressive one.
An unmotivated choice on its own isn’t necessarily an AI calling card, but enough of them together alongside one or two smoking guns can definitely make the case pretty strongly.
It’s becuase they told the ai to make the right side simple so it simplified everything.
It’s not just ai slop, they also used sloppy prompts.
There are cables in the windows side but not the Linux side, which also seems like an odd choice for a human to make to me.
Agreed, good catch.
All good points, thanks for this
Yes, who in the right mind would draw a popup window behind the screen and forget to write the green command prompt in the second line
The irony that the meme has multiple popups about AI being bad while the entire meme is AI-generated.
There are no such popups though. The issue on Windows is that Microsoft is pushing AI everywhere, whether you want it or not. But the OP allegedly used AI as a tool to generate this image when they wanted to.
I agree. Can’t quite put my finger on it… maybe the window behind the monitor? I try not to assume simply because of the style, but the lack of author credit makes it hard to check anyway.The weird thing is it wouldn’t at all be hard to draw by hand.
It’s also the total failure of a punch line in the second frame. Just so robotic sounding.
Check out the random items on the desk. They make no sense.
But yes, the biggest giveaway is those slightly blurry pop ups and that not-quite-comicsans font you see in all that slop.
It’s also the font on the pop-ups, and the AI logo.
There’s a very generic style of Facebook cartoon that these things absolutely nail.
I would say it doesn’t exactly say that AI is bad moreso that shoving it forcefully in people’s throat is not the way to do it.
If all the BS AI of Windows would be exclusively opt-in I would be “” fine"" with it.
Then there is also the “telemetry” and the random updates, or settings changing on their own and…
🤦♂️
Obligatory reminder that the newest version of O&O ShutUp helps you delete Copilot completely from your Windows installation if you have to use Windows.
I really love my switch to linux. It’s not all sunshine and roses, i have some weird things that i can’t really fix. Some problems are “too hard” for me to fix and i don’t care enough. After installing Linux right after windows to dual boot, it’s so fucking nice to not have your computer trying to sell you shit all the time, and you don’t have to jump through hoops just to get you shit working.
What has been too hard to fix?
The biggest gripe for me is completely disabling MMB copy-paste functionality and instead enabling autoscroll everywhere. Couldn’t achieve this in CachyOS, except for the browsers and maybe a few Electron-based applications.
Holding MMB to scroll like a touch screen drag also breaks canvas panning on MMB in Krita, so I had to disable it.
Basically, MMB behavior in CachyOS is really unappealing to a Windows user, but it seems to be baked into the system.
My laziness
It’s not just AI, but new android phones drive me spare.
You can’t disable that. You can’t uninstall that. You can’t make a backup of the whole phone. You can’t make a backup of one app and restore it to a different phone, unless you go through Google. We’re going to install these apps you don’t want, and there’s no way to cancel it.
My Android phone app started to show me “suggestions” instead of the call history. Geez, thanks Google. Instead of calling my GF, imma call a proctologist.
And I just know this feature will soon be used to serve me even more ads. I mean, the play store is bad enough as it is.DeGoogle your phone.
Grapheneos ftw
Universal Android Debloater.
It’s a community-rating systems for apps, and you can remove/permanently (even through os updates) disable them through ADB, without actually needing to know anything about ADB because uad comes in a nice GUI package.
I think I removed ~200 apps (most of them invisible, background ads stuff) from my phone. Much better experience.
And even if you want to install Android Android, not Google Android, you need to set up Google Android, agree to Google T&C to unlock your bootloader.
And even simple things like the gallery is so bad, scanning your whole phone. I want the gallery yo show my photos, not my video collection or downloaded images.
I’m not rich, but if I could I’d jump ship with my xiaomi 13t.
Get a refurbished pixel and put grapheneos on it. Best thing I could ever do.
Yeah I need a good camera, and I heard the pixel is good. I’ll look into that, I can probably keep an older xiaomi for my banking app with all the google crap on it…
Actually, don’t rule out that your banking app works on Grapheneos! Mine is not marked as supported in the wiki and works!
I don’t have contactless payments because gpay doesn’t work, but it’s not a big deal (and it can be solved if you use curve or if you buy a garmin smartwatch)
Clearly the Linux user just broke their prompt by updating. Classic.
AI-generated comics be like:
I had to chuckle in an exasperated way when I opened the Xbox app on my phone… and there’s a fucking Copilot tab in there as well.
I understand the use cases for AI, but Microsoft seems to be throwing the whole lot at the wall and seeing what sticks.
You’re the (working for free) tester now.
Hey, at least it’s not the (pay to be) tester that many AAA games give us now.
DOS user: updates? I can set the date in the BIOS if I need…
Lucky you had a motherboard with a CMOS battery. Without that*, you needed to enter the time and date every time the computer booted / rebooted.
* Or a capacitor instead.
There’s also the part where a windows update unlocks a new kind of fear: “what will it break this time?”
A linux update instead brings the joy of “nice! New things everyone was waiting for!”
except nvidia drivers.
fuck nvidia.
Thank you for your summary of the meme above
You’re welcome, user whose only post in here was, literally, two words: “six seven”!
You really know how to contribute to this community!
My post was something new while that comment is a retelling of the exact same thing every Lemmy user has commented ever
You invented 67? Damn, how’s it feel to have something be globally popular.
Clean physical desktop helps calm the mind as well. The artist knew it.
Where’s the part where I can’t turn my monitor on without having to pull the HDMI and reinsert?
This crap reminds me of console fanboy ism/wars.
It’s not a joke, heh. After some update in the last month or two, my monitor won’t wake up unless I power cycle the monitor.
I mean. I love Linux. But low maintenance it is not.
