- Hours after the US airstrike on Iranian territory, Iranian-backed hackers took down US President Donald Trump’s social media platform.
- Users were struggling to access Truth Social in the early morning following the alleged hack.
- As the US continues to insert itself into the ongoing Iran-Israel conflict, the US government believes more cyberattacks could happen.
they have to start differentiating a ddos attack from an actual breach. one is far more interesting than the other
I work in tech and I hate it when non-security people talk about it.
It’s really painful to read about “a new hack that can affect billions of accounts” from a source, only to learn its some new social phishing method.
I’m still at a loss for words thinking that any real human people joined truth social. We really failed as a species…
Equally upsetting. The site is truthsocial.com not truth.social
Someone should buy truth.social and make it redirect to something trump’s base hates.
Annoyingly, already registered
Really you should have it direct to a clone of the site, but with fake accounts pushing whatever agenda you want.
Meat spin?
They said something they hate.
…with a jump scare?
Like Wikipedia?
I’m thinking it might have some comedic value and if you’re trying to beat the stock market…
Fascists arent people. Antifa osint people joined to watch.
DDoS is not hacking
The word “hack” is pre-internet. A “hack” journalist or a “hack job” is basically something unprofessional. It is movies that turned “hackers” into someone that gained access to the “mainframe”. In the realm of computer systems, I would argue that a “hack” is doing anything the system was not intended/designed to do. A successful DoS or DDoS needs to find some component of the system that wasn’t designed to handle the amount of traffic about to be sent to it.
There are protections for DDoS (iptables, fail2ban, Cloudflare and so on), you have to figure out a way around them, that’s a hack.
The current tech-related usage was coined at MIT to mean working on a system. Funny that the oldest recorded source comes from MIT model railroad team.
Hacking isn’t hacking it’s usually cracking
Define hacking.
I’d start with the following, and refine if necessary:
“Gaining unauthorized access to a protected computer resource by technical means.”
- Port scanning --> Not hacking because there isn’t any access to resources gained*
- Using default passwords that weren’t changed --> Not hacking because the resource wasn’t protected*
- Sending spam --> Not hacking because there isn’t any access to resources gained
- Beating the admin with a wrench until he tells you the key --> Not hacking because it’s not by technical means.
- Accessing teacher SSN’s published on the state website in the HTML --> Not hacking because the resource wasn’t protected, and on the contrary was actively published**
- Distributed denial of service attack --> Not hacking because there isn’t any access to resources gained
* Those first two actually happened in 2001 here in Switzerland when the WEF visitors list was on a database server with default password, they had to let a guy (David S.) go free
** The governor and his idiot troupe eventually stopped their grandstanding and didn’t file charges against Josh Renaud of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reporter, luckilyWhen my parents kicked me out, the number of times o got to sleep inside because i could convince people i was the county password inspector was more than zero. It’s hacking.
Wrench? No. But an old colleague informs me that the version done with a machete does count as hacking. I concur.
Those are both way more useful than exploiting a lazy coder’s fuckup, renaming ‘house of many backdoors’ to ‘that package everyone uses in everything’ on github, or some fancy math shit.
Your laws are nonsense bullshit, they’re just excuses for power and I’d appreciate you not defiling language fof the rest of us to justify them.
Those are both way more useful than exploiting a lazy coder’s fuckup
I never said social engineering, physical breaching, exerting force on people, and other ways of compromising systems weren’t useful. They just aren’t hacking to me, otherwise the term is too broad to be very useful.
You’re free to come up with your own definition, I was asked to define it and that’s my best shot for now.
I think a better definition would be “achieve something in an unintended or uncommon way”. Fits the bill on what generally passes in the tech community as a “hack” while also covering some normal life stuff.
Getting a cheaper flight booked by using a IP address assigned to a different geographical location? Sure I’d call that a life hack. Getting a cheaper flight by booking a late night, early morning flight? No, those are deliberately cheaper
Also re: your other comment about not making a reply at all, sometimes for people like us it’s just better to not get into internet fights over semantics (no matter how much fun they can be)
Your definition is probably better. I can very much vibe with that.
Mitnick mostly social engineered. Most of the big famous attacks at least involved a component of that.
Oh man.
My comment was intended to imply that the term “hacking” defies definition because it has been grossly overused and misconstrued over many decades.
Sure you might be able to convey what it means to you but of course it means different things to everyone else, with each definition being equally appropriate.
Er go, any discussion is one of semantics.
You know my first instinct wast to reply with: “No.”
Maybe I should have stuck with that. I had a feeling this would lead nowhere.
I had a feeling this would lead nowhere.
precisely the point I was trying to make.
Can be a component of it.
Mailing someone more letters than they’re capable of replying to is not equivalent to, nor a component of, gaining access to the inside of their home.
Disabling network security and edge devices to change the properties of ingress can absolutely be a component of an attack plan.
Just like overwhelming a postal sorting center could prevent a parcel containing updated documentation from reaching the receiver needing that information.
I haven’t heard of a firewall failing open when overwhelmed yet. Usually quite the opposite, a flood disables access to more than just the targeted device, when the state table overflows.
But maybe there is a different mechanism I’m not aware of. How would the DDoS change the properties of ingress?
By denying access to resources in a primary region, one might force traffic to an alternate infrastructure with a different configuration. Or maybe by overwhelming hosts that distribute BGP configurations. By denying access to resources, sometimes you can be routed to resources with different security postures or different monitoring and alerting, thus not raising alarms. But these are just contrived examples.
Compromising devices is a wide field with many different tools and ideas, some of which are a bit off the wall and nearly all unexpected, necessarily.
I mean, I know JK Rowling sucks, and it’s been a long time since the first Harry Potter movie came out, but it was definitely a component and precursor to Hagrid beating the shit out of that door.
To be fair, they had moved to an unsecure location that was a much softer target by that point. Can a DDOS force someone to move their services over to the equivalent of a century old, weather-beaten lighthouse in the middle of England?
Iran pls hack Elon Musk’s Twitter account and post “I’m a mean old Nazi who sucks ass at Path of Exile 2”
Not just Elon’s account, shut the whole site down!
No, post an unhinged rant where he doesn’t say he’s a nazi, but he talks in detail about how he sucks at video games phrased as bragging, then shits on gamers for noticing, and says a buncha shit like the 14 words and junk.
…we need a hack to prove that?
Does that game have swords yet? Last time I played, not all classes were there.
Do twitter next.
Fuck it, take down the entire internet
It’s been tried. A huge percentage of the internet runs on Amazon web services… And a massive ddos attack on that barely bumped it beyond the level of holiday shopping.
To get anywhere on “taking down the internet” they’d probably have to physically take out many sites across the globe.
You say this like the hour all major SAAS went down 2 weeks ago was nothing. MILLIONS lost in business hours is not nothing.
Who gives a fuck about the travails of corporations on the internet?
The entire capitalist world only cares about that.
Feeling concern for the welfare of a corporation is a lot like caring for a lion or some other large predator. You don’t want to see it suffer but you know that it could turn on you at any moment, when it’s convenient for them.
Not even sure why/were you’re even taking this. They said a major outage was no worse than a website being overwhelmed by shoppers. I pointed out it’s in fact waaayyy worse. I don’t give a fuck about the corporations lost time.
“accidentally” leaving an anchor dragging across an intercontinental internet cable would do it
Russia is working on it just support Russia. /s
Sea cables are probably the most vulnerable point of the internet. There are comparatively few of them (on the order of a few hundreds), they are long, and most of their length is not guarded at all. The only reason I can think of, why nobody has targeted them at large is that it would also cut of the attacker.
Thankfully only DDos. Truth Social is Mastodon so a security flaw could have been a real problem.
nah it’s a lazy fork so seeing how he chooses people (they’re either cheap or friends of friends or both) “truth” can easily have a totally new security issue
maybe the server has a root password that’s “trump454748$$$”
This is the saddest good news I’ve ever read.
Is It Mastodon?! For real? Does it have ActivityPub enabled and all of that?
It is a modified version of Mastodon, with a Soapbox front end. It does not have ActivityPub enabled and lacks a bunch of features.
The Mastodon developers then formally requested that Truth Social comply with the terms of the software license,[75] with Truth Social publishing its source code as a ZIP file on the website on November 12, 2021.
Lol they actually complied with the license in the end, i didnt know that.
Surely Trump could have ignored them, as an official act of course.
I wonder how much of it is vibe coded at this point…
Never saw security flaw now as a real problem. You just have to live with the fact that there is one. And you will suffer when it’s used. Security flaw later is a real problem.
Lol. Lmao, even
Iran is kinda goated for this not gonna lie!
Is this how we find out that Truth Social was running even harder on hopes and dreams than 4chan was?
Good, now leak all the spicy dms.
The best hacking. Everyone knows it. Everyone says it.
I bet it’s the US.
They’re already starting the 💀Iranian sleeper cell terrorists!!!😱 scaremongering in the press.
These kinds of reports in the media are the first step in a known pattern of priming and nudging to rally up the public for another war.Lmfao
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America borrowed a washing machine from America to troll America? I don’t get it.
Whoah whoah there, front or top loading?
I mean it does depend on the extent of the hack. But usually taking down the website, they don’t take the databases or anything
source: https://xkcd.com/932/
(for those that want to read the alt-text)
Hacking a Social Media profile --> Tearing down a poster Hacking a Website --> defacing a facade
If the blinds arent closed by or a window is left open by accident, some information could get out. If the doors arent locked, the attacker could get access to further information.
They didn’t hack anything. Just your plain old DDoS attack which took the service offline for a while, nothing was (at least based on what I read) actually hacked (or cracked as old-school folks like me would like it to be called) or stolen.
