So you are saying there is hope
Anyone with two brain cells would have understood long ago that “the mass” are more numerous than “the limited top moneybags”, and that authority and power built on the mass bending over (including police and military) are a liability.
Unfortunately for us, some of the richest people think they can buy everything. Unfortunately for them, they can’t bribe people that can’t eat anymore with their shining prestige.
I can see things going to shit if the mid terms are called off or the results are not respected
In other “No Shit?” news, what else is happening in your neighborhood?
Let it lead, we had enough with their stupid.
I guess they will vote to make change lol.Hey the french revolution was also about the fact that the government was a scandal ridden shitshow of petty internal politics and stupid interpersonal games.
…oh no, Bastille day approaches huh?
The ‘elite’ of America has willfully lead my nation to dark and stupid places. They can watch the people, from a basket.
It wont. Every time I go to the range, I’m still the youngest dude there as a 42 year old.
Governments have been toppled without the use of firearms before, have some faith.
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How do you think an unarmed mob of people can fight the most militarised nation on earth? There are nations like Egypt with more corruption and repression than the US that have successfully prevented any kind of insurrection due to its strong military.
In the US, the police, military and other armed forces (ICE) all mainly consist of literal nazi’s. I think you don’t realise how bad things will get if the liberal opposition keeps making the bad choices that have made them as weak as they are now.
Time to start your very own chapter of the Socialist Rifle Association? :D
Pass, although I agree with the idea of it. Joined SRA in 2022 and they took my $35, sent me an invite to a discord channel and never contacted me ever again.
As someone that doesn’t like using discord… I’m not doing that again.
That is because all the younger people are at schools
Not on Saturday, but it also wouldn’t be unreasonable to assume they cannot afford it. That shit adds up.
Is this from some movie? Is it Alfred Hitchcock?
The crazy thing is millionaires have more on common with us normal workers than they do with billionaires.
Hasan Piker was listing all kinds of "a million _____ is _____ but a BILLION ______ is [some ufathomably larger thing].
People don’t understand multiplication very well…
If you’re a low end millionaire you can buy a nice house.
If you’re a low end billionaire you can buy an entire town of nice houses.
Comparing a million dollars to a billion dollars is like comparing one dollar to a thousand dollars.
Yeah a billionaire buys a million dollar house as easily as a millionaire buys an expensive TV or pretty good gaming pc as easily as a person with only a thousand dollars buys a cheap soda
While that is absolutely true, the millionaire still has the biggest things in common with a billionaire. They will never have to worry about a lack of money. They will never have to choose between clothes or food. And they will never be forced to keep a job, because without it they will literally die due to lack of medical insurance.
The millionaire isn’t your friend either, they’re just a wannebe billionaire.
Dude, someone who has a freehold home and a retirement portfolio is a multimillionaire in many places.
There will absolutely be people with large assets and low income struggling to make ends meet.
What’s the difference between a million and a billion? About a billion
The difference between a million and a billion is about a billion.
You’re 99.99% correct.
edit: I can’t do math for shit.
99.9%. The difference is 999 million, or 0.999 billion.
But also, at that point, less than a tenth of a percent isn’t a significant difference any more. Point is, a million is nothing to a billionaire. Let alone a multi-billionaire. Let alone a double digits billionaire, and it gets worse from there.
If you were to count 1 second, every second, until you reached one million. It will have taken you roughly 11 days.
If you were to count 1 second, every second, until you reached one billion. It will have taken you over 33 years.
I like this one because it helps establish a relative analogy we can all kind of feel and puts things into perspective. We all know what 11 days feels like, and almost all of us know what 33 years feels like. Either because we may have lived it directly or we’ve lived enough of a portion of it to extrapolate that experience.
One trillion seconds is almost 32,000 years. The analogy is broken again as 32K years is already becoming a nonsensical number that none of us can meaningfully interpret. It’s longer than all of recorded human history
Anyways, https://apnews.com/article/musk-tesla-electric-trillion-pay-stock-f2140db92e8032121f4c114234059165
under 5millions ish, but once you reach 10s millions in worth, the psycopathy starts to show. hasan probably a poor example, as hes comes from a very wealth turkey family but acts like lefty tankie, but hes really just a resistance grifter, he pretends likes hes poor. but his fans are calling him out he never had an actual job before, the one that wasnt due to nepotism, one given by his uncle cenk ughyr, hes part of the bourgeois.
Many leftist have been those from high class families who had the education and means to make a difference. Guevara and Engels being two examples among many. FDR, though absolutely not anywhere close to a leftist, betrayed his own upper class and championed the new deal.
I am not defending wealth. I am a dyed in the red and black commie, but I do think we should recognize that sometimes it’s actually those with enough material means to make a difference who do so.
BTW. Hasan’s a internet personality who abuses his dog, so… This comment was more about people coming from wealthier families being able to do good things.
The crazy thing is millionaires have more on common with us normal workers than they do with billionaires.
I get what you’re saying, that they are millionaires are closer to being broke than to being a billionaire, but they still have more in common with billionaires than normal workers. Once you reach the mid to high single digit millionaire you can pretty much choose your own adventure.
i think is when you reach 10s of millions in wealth is when things becomes very seperate from the plebs.
Lemmy is seriously underestimating the number of comfortable millionaires. Got $1M? You can retire and live modestly. Got $3M? That’s a new way of life, not radical, but much better. Got $10M? You’re well set for whatever happens.
3M invested is a nice retirement, not a new way of life. That’s a barely 6-figure a year payout. Of course, a chunk of a3m networth is likely your house.
In the US, 1 million is not enough to retire comfortably unless you are already retirement age and can collect social security and Medicare. It’s not like you can retire early on 1 million dollars. That doesn’t even buy you a house where I live.
I have a friend who made it big young (well earned IMO, they started working at 15) and they have about 2M in investments.
They make 4k/month after taxes just from the stock dividends every year.
That’s well enough for a comfortable life over here, as their house and cars are paid for - and the money keeps growing in investments.
I’m not quite at that level, but I’m getting there. My main concern would be health care. And that my house isn’t fully paid off. And with Trump manipulating the market, idk I get nervous. 2 million might work. But I know 1 million is for sure not enough, at least in the US.
Your math is a bit off
Trump is counting on it to declare martial law and never have another election.
You say that…like that changes anything.
He’s already declared martial law by sending in military units to cities. He’s already done it.
What the fuck do we have to lose?
Exactly as I’m seeing it. And I armed and practicing. Not saying, “I have a bunch of guns and ammo so I’m a tough guy!”
Anyway, went to camp today and sent some .556 armor-piercing down range. Sight is good enough for me, good enough for 100’. Did you know that green-tips drill holes in 1/4" steel? I didn’t! Walked down to look at my target and it looked like I took a drill press to it!
Anyway, unidentified, warrantless, masked men are targets in my book. Police patches? LOL, anyone can buy those on Amazon. Want a link?
They’re not here yet, but I have eyes on.
Yes, I’ll almost certainly die. No, I’m not letting them take my brown, legal wife.
Your comment fills me with a deep dread that causes me to feel like saying something to discourage you from this path. Alas, it’s not your preparation that is causing that feeling, but the grim circumstances that necessitate this kind of planning.
It’s difficult being on the other side of the world and completely unable to do anything than just watch as America descends deeper into fascism. However, I’m glad that I am not in the impossible position of making the decisions you’re making. I’m sorry that you are.
Good luck, I hope you don’t die. And I hope that people like you are able to claw back democracy from the fascists
you wont last long. your best bet is to lay down those arms and come out with your hands up.
Learned about it from this episode of the Team Human podcast
But what is happening in Hong Kong is they come up with a slogan, which is translated as Do Not Split, which is, we know that some people are willing to be confrontational with riot police.
And when they are, that’s going to cost the state in terms of not only resources, but it’s going to cost the state in terms of political capital and support. And we know that there are some people who are not willing to do that. And we are going to abide by the protocol of Do Not Split, which means that we’re not going to criticize them openly, and they’re not going to criticize us openly.
If we’re the pacifists, we’re not going to have them criticize us for being sort of like, I don’t know, limpid or flaccid or not courageous or whatever. And we’re not going to criticize them for being more confrontational. And the thing is that the support is also tacit.
It’s not like they have to come out and tell the media, oh, we approve of our more sort of confrontational colleagues. They just keep quiet. They just keep quiet.
Understanding that a range of tactics is probably going to be necessary. Nobody really knows what’s going to work. But if everybody’s pushing back against a particularly violent state, then everybody’s really on the same side.
.world really letting fucking mask-off nazis on there now huh
you wont last long. your best bet is to lay down those arms and come out with your hands up.
…said the Nazi to the Jew.
The alternative is die slow. 🤷
A repeat of the French Revolution is the real reason behind the bunkers of the ultra wealthy.
apparently Thiels compound construction was denied by the NZ government so he abandoned that country, hes probably shopping elsewhere.
An easy way to avoid anything like the French Revolution … or any kind of revolution … is to just feed people.
You can do whatever you want, abuse people, jail people, arrest people, even start a war, build concentration camps and for the most part people will go along with it all, as long as you keep them fed. You don’t even have to feed them much … just keep them fed enough to keep them from rioting and revolting.
They’re deliberately starving people right now.…
TBF some of us are already fairly revolting.
YES! Commented many times that our masters won’t let us starve. Well…
Find the bunker and then cause a mini Chernobyl on top of it so that the radiation half life doesn’t occur until all the bunker people’s lifespans are over. We’ll trap them there forever.
I hope they enjoy staying in that bunker forever instead of the surface world
we can seal them in with concrete.
Somewhere, somehow, those bunkers will need air intakes. Some potatoes to plug tubes, or mustard gas packets down the hatches … the problem is, bunkers make excellent prisons and/or tombs.
The ultra wealthy also don’t do shit in their own and will be expecting at least a small team of other people to cater to them while they weather the storm. There is no future where the ultra wealthy get to keep all the things they have collected.
I bet those
servant’s quartersaccomodations for staff are real nice so that they stay loyal.wasnt there are article about zuckerberg/bezos compound they dont know what to do with the HUMAN waste they produced,a nd they wanted to dumped in some random area to pollute. since you dont pay for public services.
There’s a whole rich people Island neighborhood (I didn’t think they were bunkers) that wanted to pipe their waste back to the mainland because they didn’t think anything through when building it
A healthy and well designed septic system will handle a free humans for decades if you treat it right.
That shouldn’t be the hard part.
Weird jump after defending a multi billionaire govenor that won’t defend his citizens and just wants to make sound bites…
Fair, but in this case, they’re not wrong.
Water is one of the most destructive things on the planet. Find where water is pumped out, plug it, flood it (or just let them sit in their own filth unable to flush a toilet)
My toilet needs to flush
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Press the buttons on the top.
Couldn’t we just plug up their vents? Or maybe fart a little bit in them?
I’m more of a proponent on getting these criminals out of their bunkers, giving them a trial, then permanently sealing the bunkers after removing luxuries.
And unless there is something I dont know about the construction of these bunkers, they are never impossible to break into.
Truthfully if it gets to the point the mega wealthy are hiding in bunkers the people will have access to military arsenals.
The US has spent a lot of money researching and purchasing munitions designed to bust underground bunkers
I propose this plan: billionaire brawl.
A reality TV show akin to the gladiator arenas of old.
They don’t respect the institutions of law and have danced around them/dismantled them, so they do not deserve it.
Instead, they turned our public institutions into theater. That is what they deserve.
For our entertainment, a new billionaire brawl occurs every day. There are thousands of them so we could have years of entertainment. They fight to the death with all sorts of strange instruments and situations.
I should mention, in Billionaire Brawl, the strange Instruments they use to survive? Yes you guessed it, they must buy them, and they are not cheap. Each piece of equipment costs billions to buy. A sword? A billion. A shield? Another billion. Clothes? Yes, a billion. A helmet? Billion. The proceeds from Billionaire Brawl go to the workers of the industries they pillaged from, and to the environments they destroyed for their riches, and to the people they brainwashed for their riches.
The great thing about this is that it would catalogue exactly what happened here. Future generations would have a historical goldmine. Millions of people who were abused, starved, exploited, and lied to would be able to watch their billionaire brawl and feel a sense of justice.
They feast while they poison our air and waters. They live in luxury while making us beg to give 1/2 of our income to a slum. The moment AI became seemingly advanced enough, they tossed us aside like nuisances.
Billionaire Brawl. Don’t let them escape to bunkers. Pull them out. Let them fight to the death for freedom, like they’ve made us fight for generations.
Almost like an inverted Hunger Games. Nice!
We could seal them in and let them rot inside? I personally feel like indefinite imprisonment in a vault of their creation could be plenty punishment. Could also cut electricity. Maybe they desire to come out on their own, we wouldnt need to break in.
Either is fine for me if these guys get what they wrought
See that’s the thing with me.
To me, justice isn’t served until the institutions they tried to destroy are the ones used to punish them. It’s like the penultimate form of justice.
Yes. It’s for show. The end result is the same. But to the people, we can witness it, and remind ourselves that these institutions of justice and government are meant to serve the many, and not the few.
But part of me also really just wants to use thermite to cut through a big steel bunker door
The problem is that the rich own all the lawyers. And judges. And congresspeople.
if they have been collaborating they should be there with the billionaires.
More eggs to break. The people are getting hungry
You just gotta know where they are, and many of them are doing it right out in the open. Crews of construction workers, locals, they know where to find the bunkers.
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Apparently even the venture capitalists are like “maybe there’s a bit of a problem” now.
You spelt vulture incorrectly.
maybe they shouldnt have funded the AI bubble.
